I do not accept the one-to-one correspondance of valves as you describe them insofar as they are remotely connected to anything real. This is a nice little game you wish to play, but frankly, I'm not interested.

Let me see, hit on twice, integrated zilch. Not bad.

My open mindedness allows me to receive more truth than my closed mindedness does. A lot of rehash is going on here.

You have said that you believe truth does not exist. Therefore any arguement concerning the entrance of truth into a mind is unimportant to you. I don't think I'm being dogmatic.

I understand. The problem is your definition of "valve." Even if the two valves are different, they are still valves. By your definition, a closed valve can let as much water through as an open valve of the same kind. I'm not willing to discuss valves that do not work like real valves.

You have answered for me. Have fun at the beach, it's quite delusional.

Lets review:

You want to talk about a valve that allows water to pass when it is closed, even as much water as when it is open.

I don’t want to.

Impass.

Happens every day.

No reason to get upset.

You call me obstinate, wet, feminine, a failure, closed minded (you forgot dimtard)

Fine. Discuss it with someone who cares.

You haven't read all of his comments, have you?

Untrue on all counts. You fail.

I had no delusion that the comments pertained to the poem. You think the narrator is a dunce, and I could agree or not agree, depending on which position I wish to view the poem from. Since you do not believe truth exists, or at least it appears you do not, this kind of poem seems silly to you. All I ask is that you consider it from several viewpoints besides you own.

I wrote the poem. I had nobody in mind, only the common practice of wearing a cross about the neck.

I have read it and find some of it useful to programming in AutoLisp, a varient of LISP. The style shown in my poem is more common in AutoLisp than the style shown in the link. AutoLisp is the only LISP I know well enough to comment on.

I understand what you are saying and disagree for reasons I have stated. We have reached an impass.

Yes, but we know that particles exist in truth which Newton could noit have known about. Unless you want to argue that particles are not truth, but representations of something unknown. In that case we have more truth to learn. The difference is that I believe truth exists and you aparently do not.

No, the cross is a symbol of the same death as the crucifix is. I was not trying to be vague.