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Member since 2004 · Posted 4 May 2004 · Edited 15 May 2004 · 9 comments

who among us could indeed be called a poet? does one need to read the work of the masters, or just listen to ones soul? would obscure words, brand one or would it be better if made of pure simplest thoughts....

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[0] Stephen Robins 4-May-04/5:41 AM Reply
You appear to fail for failure's sake.
[9] Shuushin 4-May-04/7:37 AM Reply
Is a good question(s), to be sure.

And raises still more (nothing wrong with that). I think you might be limiting the poem's impact by making that last suggestion, somehow?
[9] deleted user 4-May-04/9:33 AM Reply
Verse 1 poses a good question, the implications of which are much argued on Poemranker. Verse 2 doesn't help much to answer it. Verse 3 is good because it raises the dilemma between prose and meaning, which is most important.
[n/a] zodiac 4-May-04/12:08 PM Reply
It would probably be better if it made a bit of sense, whatever form it's in. If this poem is, as I imagine it is, about how some vaguely-defined (read 'nonexistent') INSTITUTION forces everyone to write in rhyme and prettily-formed phrases exactly like the 'Masters', and how much of a rebel you and a few other daring souls are who take poetry out for wild formless spins at night, then it's utter crap.

In school (and I imagine you're thinking largely of some high-school-type setting) you're taught a bunch of stuffy carefully-metered rhyming poems and very few daring non-careful poems because you are being taught much of the best that poetry has done from its beginnings (in English at least), meaning 1200 years of rhyme and meter and pretty much only 150 years of not. And because in the lower-grades teachers are more likely to teach the rhymed and metered ones (like "My lady's eyes are nothing like the sun") because it gives them a whole lot of easy things to talk about which aren't closely related to its content, while such mostly non-rhymed, non-metered later poems as "The Waste Land" don't. If you have a problem with that, talk to your teacher, who, if he/she is anything like most American teachers, is hugely undertrained and liable to stick with what's easy. Or stick your head out a window and see what's going on everywhere else in the world, where non-rhyme non-meter has UTTERLY DOMINATED THINGS so long that many people are bored with it and looking for other things to do, such as write some kind of rhyme/meter again. Thank you.
[n/a] francis nor capule › zodiac 4-May-04/1:28 PM Reply
but i just made this coz i felt like it...
[9] deleted user › zodiac 4-May-04/1:35 PM Reply
I hope the poem is deeper than you imply. Please see my comment above. It seems to get at the issue of whethjer meaning in a poem is more or less important than its prose, which includes the things you are saying.
[9] titan69 16-May-04/12:50 AM Reply
the answer is yes!!
[9] Sasha 16-May-04/7:52 AM Reply
Read the masters. Learn about them so that you can forget later.
[n/a] francis nor capule › Sasha 19-May-04/5:56 PM Reply
ha haa, youre right ;)