Why does everyone have to try and write haiku exactly as the Japanese write it? I don't see what's so awfully horrendously terrible about writing a 5-7-5 poeme with Western devices and still calling it an haiku.
1) the meaning of 'rat', being a natural kind term, is fixed across all possible worlds. Therefore, to call it 'mouse' would still necessarily entail the meaning 'rat'.
2) the meaning of 'villanelle' is set by its inherent awesomeness, to call it a sonnet would be bow'ls.
3) the meaning of 'ace poeme' is set by the patented MEDIOCRITY CHECKLISTE, to deviate from such procedure will inevitably result in a protracted spell in the corner wearing the pointy hat of shame.
4) the meaning of 'haiku' relies on certain conditions specific to the linguistic devices of a certain culture, devices which are inaccessible to other cultures. Therefore, the term 'haiku' is not an universally fixed referent and can be acceptably altered in meaning outside of its natural habitat. Besides, saying that you shouldn't call something an haiku just because it's not in Japanese is like saying FitzGerald was totally, utterly morally wrong for his version of the Rubaiyat because it was NOT HOW THE AUTHOR WROTE IT!!!!!!!!!111oneone
If you were to say that, maybe, this should be a senryu rather than an haiku, then I'd listen.
The meaning of 'haiku' relies on certain conditions specific to the linguistic devices of a certain culture, as you say. But why should those devices be completely inaccessible to other cultures. Granted, the old Japanese writers have something unique, but why should an English writer not try to move with the form like a non-Argentinean adapts her dance style to the Tango. The term 'haiku' is not a universally fixed referent, as you say, and can be acceptably altered in meaning outside of its natural habitat. But in calling it âhaikuâ the writer is trying to adapt to the original meaning in another habitat, otherwise the word has no meaning but âshort poem.â
Stop this madness! Ungodly Basho. Ungodly Onitsura. Ungodly the two images that gain magical properties when you put them together. It is spring and o look a frog. It is winter o look an old man. Ungodly the bloody Japanese they are so exotic. Ungodly the power mysterious to which every Japanese word must be calculated. Lo orient magic. Lo magnificent non-sequitur. Bloody rain cloud.
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thing on my rug,
I forgot to wipe
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Just a suggestion.
1) the meaning of 'rat', being a natural kind term, is fixed across all possible worlds. Therefore, to call it 'mouse' would still necessarily entail the meaning 'rat'.
2) the meaning of 'villanelle' is set by its inherent awesomeness, to call it a sonnet would be bow'ls.
3) the meaning of 'ace poeme' is set by the patented MEDIOCRITY CHECKLISTE, to deviate from such procedure will inevitably result in a protracted spell in the corner wearing the pointy hat of shame.
4) the meaning of 'haiku' relies on certain conditions specific to the linguistic devices of a certain culture, devices which are inaccessible to other cultures. Therefore, the term 'haiku' is not an universally fixed referent and can be acceptably altered in meaning outside of its natural habitat. Besides, saying that you shouldn't call something an haiku just because it's not in Japanese is like saying FitzGerald was totally, utterly morally wrong for his version of the Rubaiyat because it was NOT HOW THE AUTHOR WROTE IT!!!!!!!!!111oneone
If you were to say that, maybe, this should be a senryu rather than an haiku, then I'd listen.
Oh my f-ing God!
I can't remember that song,
something something yeah.
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