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Katie on Isolate by Beseech 31 Mar 2003, 1:17 PM
Beseech don't listen to wink minded people like 'lark angel' just feel sorry for them since they have nothing better to do then to TRY and pray on people. I honestly Like this 9 :)
some deleted user on Ze German Poetry by Stephen Robins 31 Mar 2003, 3:04 PM
lol
Roisin on some deleted poem 31 Mar 2003, 9:30 AM
1. Bush and Blair appear to be victims of their own propaganda: no `rising' v. Saddam and flowers for the liberators, but anti-US anger and resistance to a colonial invasion. Why? a) Bombing of civilians. The killing of 50-plus civilians in Basra (little reported) - a city that was not, but has now become a `military target' - was an `accident'. The market bomb in Baghdad was another, so was the bombing of the bus in Syria, the bomb that fell in Iran, etc. So we are told. Hundreds of civilians have died and thousands injured. Bush and Blair knew that innocent people would be killed. Bombing and shelling densely populated areas kills a lot of ordinary people. This has not made their relatives, friends, fellow workers and neighbours support the killers. And we should not forget the long-term effects of the Gulf War. Children in Basra are still being born with severe deformities as a result of depleted uranium. b) Sanctions. Blair says the suffering is caused by Saddam, but the UN and others point to the effect of sanctions over twelve years. The US and UK wanted to keep sanctions in place (France called for ending them) and blocked imports that have led to poverty, hunger and death among the population, especially the most vulnerable, e.g. children. c) Patriotism/nationalism. People are defending their country, their nationalised industries, their small businesses, their sovereignty and independence, their towns, cities, communities, families. There is still a strong sense of national identity, which was fostered by the Ba'ath Party over five decades. Despite religious and other differences, ordinary working people feel and suffer together. Their collective solidarity is strengthened when their whole existence is threatened. The Vietnam-war phrase, `hearts and minds', has been revived like a bad joke. What the imperialists want is to break down the Iraqis' national identity and collective solidarity by encouraging religious, `tribal' (?), ethnic, regional, political, and other divisions - as their policies largely succeeded in doing in the Congo, Somalia, Liberia, Yugoslavia, and Afghanistan. Ba'athism, though brutal and tyrannical, encouraged a secular nationalism. Even those who hate Saddam are against the US/UK invasion. They know what it will bring - not `freedom' or `democracy' but a fragmented wasteland whose resources have been expropriated by a foreign invader. More poverty and inequality will result under a US military junta that will oversee the sucking out of Iraq's oil wealth, that will privatise everything including essential services like water, and will further reduce the Iraqi people to a humiliating dependence on foreign aid. (Zambia was a one-party state. When Kaunda, one of the Saddam's closest friends, was voted out, the new government proceeded to implement neo-liberal policies. In Iraq, these policies can only be implemented through military force.) d) The humanitarian crisis. The invaders of Iraq caused the humanitarian crisis in the first place and now pretend they are being humanitarians. Does this not explain why even the recipients of these food parcels and boxes of water tell the invaders to leave? However, if and when, through constant bombardment, the weakening of armed resistance, and the physical liquidation of Ba'athist political structures (i.e. `regime change', which flies in the face of international law) - if all this eventually reduces a critical mass of the people to destitution, yes, then maybe some of them, simply in order to survive, will get down on their knees and crave for help. Breaking the people's spirit will vindicate Blair's fervent Christian morality. (In Africa the number of conversions to Christianity always shot up after the colonising forces inflicted a military defeat on the indigenous people.) 2. Why did Blair fly to see Bush? To discuss the `post-Saddam reconstruction'? That was the cover story. But was it not for crisis talks? They had expected Basra to fall in a day and the south to rise up so the armoured columns could race up to Baghdad, and the whole show would be over in a couple of weeks. It took five days even to open the port of Umm Kasr and even now there are so-called `pockets of resistance' there. The US forces are so over- stretched that a further 120,000 troops are to be sent in. Who could have predicted this? Hence the Bush/Blair crisis talks. 3. Splits in the regime. Richard Perle, chair of Bush's Defence Policy Board and the `brain' behind the attack on Iraq who had been confidently predicting a pro-US rising and a short war, has resigned. (The reason given, that of a conflict of interests, is spurious.) Differences over military strategy have been exposed. What Bush and Blair said ten days ago is being contradicted today. 4. Why don't they just flatten Baghdad and `finish the job'? This `nuke 'em' line is pushed by members of the Bush gang and those Neanderthals in Britain who read The Sun. The trouble with this course of action, which would mean killing millions of innocent people, is that the Middle East would erupt - regimes in Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia are looking a bit shaky, and there's always Pakistan. Following the `Nukemites' (one Pentagon spokesman for the `Shock and Awe' operation said "what we want to create is bombardment with a nuclear impact") could be suicidal in view of the anti-war movement generally. Revolted by the lies about weapons of mass destruction, the illegality of the policy of `regime change', the racism, the civilian deaths, popular protest has never been higher - thousands of British shcoolchildren on strike, blocking roads, etc. is unprecedented. This is holding back the imperialists. 4. The alternatives. One alternative for the military strategists is `street fighting', hand-to-hand combat in the cities. But this means high US and British casualties. Another would be the Israeli method - just go in with the tanks and shell people's houses. Yet another, suggested in a recent statement by Colin Powell to the effect that the battle of Baghdad could wait, is to dig in for a long, drawn-out war, a war of attrition. The trouble with this is that the cost goes up: already Gordon Brown has had to allocate another £1.25 billion on top of the £1.75 already allocated. Bush has asked for $75 billion. Will the hard-pressed US and UK taxpayers stand for this? The US has indicated that it will use Iraqi oil to pay for their war (so much for their stated intention to ensure that the profits from the oil go to the Iraqi people). 5. Conclusion? The imperialists are facing a reversal of fortunes few could have predicted. The divisions in the UN and Europe weaken Blair, as do the divisions in the Labour Party. Can Blair last? He was counting on a quick, "clean" victory that would enable him to rebut his critics. A long, messy war with significant American and British casualties plus continued anti-war protests throughout the world, above all in the Middle East, makes a big dent in the unilateralist Bush-Blair agenda. The Iraqi people have every right under international law to fight this unprovoked aggression by invading forces that have overwhelming military superiority. Iraqis have no airforce and no navy. No sooner were their Samoud missiles destroyed under the UN inspection regime than they were bombed and invaded. We should support the Iraqis' resistance to colonial occupation. Anyone who says we should support "our" troops, like Charles Kennedy, is supporting an illegal war, a barbaric aggression carried out by the most powerful superpower the world has ever seen, an act carried out in defiance of the UN and world opinion. Charles Kennedy supports a war he had opposed before it started, before it became a reality. Now it's real he supports it! - as if you can support the troops doing the actual killing but oppose the idea of them doing it - logically and morally an untenable position. We should defend the right of the Iraqi people and the Iraqi armed forces to defend their country. We should also say: BRING THE TROOPS BACK! Bush and Blair have no right under any known law to set themselves up as global policeman, as moral supermen like heroes from a Hollywood Western or a teenage comic, ridding the world of evil men. Those of us who have made a reality check will confirm that we are not living inside a Superman comic. 6. Action. Demonstrate, protest, discuss, argue, write letters, send emails, etc. Next meeting: Wed April 2 at 1 p.m. (Blair's phone number is 020 7270 1234 email is public@ministers.mod.uk) !
some deleted user on I've Lost you by JustLin 31 Mar 2003, 3:01 PM
dame, u need to stop writin this stuff and go fuck this person
calilegzzz on Isolate by Beseech 31 Mar 2003, 4:31 PM
I enjoyed reading this poem, I was able to fell the writers feelings, I like that!
some deleted user on the salt shaker by elizabethann 31 Mar 2003, 2:53 PM
good stuff, i think its better then your poem "sexy", i give it a 7
some deleted user on cupid arrow by JustLin 31 Mar 2003, 2:59 PM
lol, i think u could write something a little less cliche, but im really not1 2 judge, >6
OneFingerAnswer on 12 O'Clock New Year's Eve by hdw 31 Mar 2003, 1:02 AM
Try not to be offended by this. I'm going to be honest and blunt. If you just hate me and go on a spiteful rage that's ok, you wouldn't be the first one, but I'd rather you think about what I say. You are quite lacking as a poet. You have things to say, good first step. Now they need to be molded into something a bit more artistic. Mind you artistic words with no meaning aren't much fun either. We have more than enough of that on this site. Find the balence, come back and let us see. Try metaphor and similie. They help a lot. I'm looking forward to seeing an improvement from you. Good luck and happy writing.
Stephen Robins on some deleted poem 31 Mar 2003, 5:34 AM
Cack in a sack in a shack in Iraq.
Fear of Garbage on Why? Pt 1 by hdw 31 Mar 2003, 7:17 AM
why indeed. whine for a few more hours, maybe it will help.
8 is too much for this.....but i like the occasional punctuation of "Sex on the weightbench." And that delicious mmm at the end!
Fear of Garbage on Unlocking Happiness by darkhelmet10 31 Mar 2003, 7:29 AM
oh ick. self-righteous as a prophet.
Goodness me what a winsome chart and an honour to be included. My fritters are touched !
MuDvAyNe on Isolate by Beseech 31 Mar 2003, 10:18 AM
crap poem, just because you did it
<~> on Unlocking Happiness by darkhelmet10 31 Mar 2003, 11:40 AM
damn. i read the title fast, and i thought it said, "unCOCKing happiness". it's that damn kthulah, and her prettycock poem, getting me mind on one track. sigh.
<~> on some deleted poem 31 Mar 2003, 11:42 AM
oh, my. this warmed me through and through. can i borrow, when you've done with him?
Nice. I like it. This style is fun to play with. 7.
Frass on fever by <~> 31 Mar 2003, 2:02 PM
A myriad of pheromones abound, Zzin. After this past winter, many await the sun. Hmm, if only you'd worked 'sprang' in there, somehow.
some deleted user on Normal by elizabethann 31 Mar 2003, 2:48 PM
could you describe the skin better, some more imagery could help a lot for me >7
some deleted user on Children by JustLin 31 Mar 2003, 3:02 PM
hmm... lol