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faithmairee on Joe likes "DYNAMITE"! by horus8 19 Dec 2004, 1:05 AM
interesting piece...nice flow and dynamite beat
PsydewaysTears on A Better God by Dovina 19 Dec 2004, 12:05 AM
I like this. A strong religious statement that's good both on a personal and universal level. Not too over-told or sidetracked, the focus is exactly where it should be. Lines thirteen and fourteen spoke most loudly to me, but it's altogether a worthwhile read. •°•Gregory James•°•
PsydewaysTears on Math Poem by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 10:00 PM
The ending captured my interest, but I was lucky to make it that far. I think that with an added beginning this might have accomplished just the right amount of balance and captivation. •°•Gregory James•°•
Dovina replying on The wreck of a Memphis-Atlanta Greyhound by zodiac 18 Dec 2004, 8:19 PM
So, "I was the flying man" was not something you meant. Okay.
faithmairee on Pollution by Firestarter 18 Dec 2004, 7:39 PM
absolutely awesome...i loved this poem
faithmairee on Ashes, Ashes by Firestarter 18 Dec 2004, 7:37 PM
excellent work...a true masterpiece faith
Dovina replying on Pinhole by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 7:36 PM
I am happy that anybody sees where I am going with this poem. If I saw where I am going, I would remove uncertainty from the fourth stanza and conclude it decisively in the fifth.
gawd, you're good...this has a great flow to it, is extremely well-written with a very powerful delivery...great poem! faith
faithmairee on Nothing Changes by Richard 18 Dec 2004, 7:28 PM
great poem...one of the best i have seen on here so far... faith
Dan garcia-Black on Pinhole by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 6:54 PM
I see where you're going with this poem. I think you could do better if you would rewrite the last two stanzas. You should let go of the uncertainty in the 4th stanza and wrap it up positively in the 5th. So, 'til then a -9- not a -10-.
Looks like somebody found them self a muse.
Dovina replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 1:31 PM
I’m sorry, I thought that was obvious. Yes the superheroes do not usually hoist themselves in arrogance and demean the lower classes, except for the villain-heroes, which might draw some of the same following -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. draws. It is only the magnetic capacity of the hero that I see raising him in fantasy like -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., not his character unless it happens to be similar. People were drawn to Hitler and Jim Jones for escape and identification with a greater man, and I don’t mean to compare those men to -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 1:06 PM
No, look. You haven't said what the comparison is. You've only announced that you've made a comparison. One imagines you have written this down on a piece of notepaper and forgotten to post it onto the internet. The mythical comparison, as you have stated it, is between the escapist fantasy of a reader of superhero comic books and the alleged escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. Do you know what a comparison is? It consists of listing the similarities and differences between the two compared things, perhaps with some sort of conclusion at the end. So far you haven't listed any similarities or differences between the escapist fantasies of superhero comic book readers and the alleged escapist fantasies of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I., except to say that they are both escapist fantasies, which is not a comparison at all, because the question is how they compare *qua* escapist fantasies. Specifically, superheroes aren't "extremely arrogant." They don't "assert themselves to be innately better." They don't have an "obsession with demeaning the lower classes and instilling what they hope to be pain." By extension, the escapist fantasies of readers of these comics probably don't have these features. You could make a more profitable comparison between the escapist fantasies of the writers of supervillain comics and the alleged escapist fantasies of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. Remember, though, what a comparison is. You can't just say "I compare these two things."
Dovina replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 12:56 PM
It is not a new position, but the same one I have been discussing all along. Perhaps you are another aspect of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. and have not read the other posts. To repeat, he is “the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a superhero.” Through “extreme arrogance” and “the preposterous higher order of human in which he asserts himself as if innately better,” and his “obsession with demeaning the lower classes and instilling what he hopes to be pain” he becomes like a figure of escapist fantasy. I could go on about how he might be attractive were it not for . . . , etc., but please read, it’s all there.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 12:38 PM
You have a remarkable propensity to abandon each of your positions as it sinks. However, let us consider this new position. In fact it is not yet a position; merely a declaration that you *have* a position. What is your comparison between the escapist fantasy of comic-book readers and the alleged escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.?
Dovina replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 12:24 PM
It melts only if the warmth of the deer’s head is sufficient, which could be next spring. You’re just trying to make an inept analogy work.
Dovina replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 12:19 PM
The sentence does make sense, though I should have ended it with a rhetorical question mark. Either way, it says nothing about whether Superman and the others are real or not, though we both know they are imaginary. Also, in your No. 2, it says nothing about whether they are log-ins on the internet, though we both know they are not. I will retort, as you suspected, that they provide escapist fantasy for many people, which I compare to the escapist fantasy of -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. I may have, as you say, messed up everything.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 11:54 AM
Yes, but your "simple truth" is a buncombe. The snowflake's melting isn't a result of its contact with the eyelash. Clearly, the surface area between the snowflake and the eyelash is small. It melts because the air around the deer's body, especially its head, is warm. Are there any fields of knowledge you are not prepared to propose absurd falsehoods in?
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 11:50 AM
Which is how? Let's examine your higgledy-piggledy position. Quote: "Does anyone not suspect he is the embodiment of thwarted lives seeking betterment through a Superman or Spiderman." I mean forget about the details of any given superhero. The sentence just doesn't make any sense. 1. Superman does not "play" or "embody" Superman -- he *is* Superman. He doesn't pretend to have Super-powers -- he does have them. (The same goes for Spiderman, and indeede Batman.) If anything, he is playing at being Clark Kent. This is the exact reverse of your claim. 2. Furthermore, Superman and Spiderman, the two superheroes heroes you mentioned, aren't log-ins to an internet forum that multiple people use. They are single people. (Ironically, comparing -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. to Batman would have made more sense, since according to zodiac, Batman is an identity taken on by more than person. 3. I suppose you will retort by saying that *reading* about Superman is an escapist fantasy of the sort your mentioning. Probably your higgledy-piggledy mind can't understand the difference between "embodying" a shero and "vicariously living" through reading about his exploits. You've mussed-up everything, Dovina. Everything.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. replying on The Rockets’ Song by Dovina 18 Dec 2004, 11:35 AM
No, I say something like that when *you've* been beaked to the max. But I can see how you would make that mistake.