replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
10 Feb 2006, 12:11 PM
“Heaved is a bit “tortured,” I have to admit. “Unction” was used quite a bit by the religious prior generation to describe a fervent or earnest quality especially in dealing with religious matters. Thanks for the comment.
replying on Going Away to Fight a War by wilco
9 Feb 2006, 9:27 PM
If I become one, I'll surely tell.
replying on Everything That You've Ever Wanted by drnick
9 Feb 2006, 7:37 PM
A life without fear is possible without eloping with some fantasy. But in saying that I define fear as mental distress concerning unpleasant posibilities such as dying or losing health or money.
replying on Going Away to Fight a War by wilco
9 Feb 2006, 7:18 PM
For the same reason that living in California means that everything I write is inspired by fruit and nuts.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:13 PM
Lines 7 and 8 are quotes, and I agree with alchemy – they should be in “”.
Religion is interesting and wistful and nostalgic. To many people, it’s even important.
Religion is interesting and wistful and nostalgic. To many people, it’s even important.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:33 AM
You can have it. Just don't tell them Dovina said Ronald looks like Mohammed.
on Going Away to Fight a War by wilco
9 Feb 2006, 7:31 AM
I can almost hear a country guitar and sorrowful hilbilly tune. Nice.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:23 AM
Ronald MacDonald
looks like Mohammed
lets kill the hamburger freaks
we'll shoot 'em
and loot 'em
and cut off their heads
but who made this ugly connection?
looks like Mohammed
lets kill the hamburger freaks
we'll shoot 'em
and loot 'em
and cut off their heads
but who made this ugly connection?
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:05 AM
Yep, think I'll use 'em.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:04 AM
Thanks, because noistalgia is hard to transfer.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:03 AM
Or tattoo his tunic with a funny-faced Mohammed while he’s facing Mecca on his knees.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 7:00 AM
Some “good stuff” was handed down to me from my father.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 6:57 AM
No, and it seems like such a worthwhile thing to do.
replying on My Father’s World by Dovina
9 Feb 2006, 6:55 AM
The capital “Fire” is just the first word in a quote; no other significance. I debated using quote marks here and around “More than you can shake a stick at.” But since I’m omitting punctuation generally, I didn’t. In a way these lines are better without, because that makes them my words perigenitally transferred. My father didn’t write, and he wouldn’t say a high-falutin word for love nor money. So I’m not convinced that prayers for it really work.
replying on The Perigenetic Prayer by ALChemy
8 Feb 2006, 7:53 PM
Yes, and -=Dark_Angel,P.I.=- is hilarious with Southern Comfort.
You are being instructed in the various styles of poetry as classified by FORM. I read a very short poem once and liked it because I felt a kinship with a man known for his heavy drinking and rude lifestyle. I was impressed that two humans, very different, could come together on this poem of his.
ART by Charles Bukowski
“As the spirit wanes, the form appears.”
I remembered my own spirit waning after work, as I relaxed with a glass of wine and witnessed the appearance of “forms” that eventually found expression on paper. It seemed that Bukowski, too, had caught the notion that the cares of life and business inhibit creativity, the very notion I was feeling, but had never written as succinctly as his brief poem.
A year or so later I listened to a recording of Bukowski. He said that he wrote the poem to express angst at a trend among the poets in his circle. As the spirit of a poet wanes and becomes like a dead thing, a poet turns to forms such as sonnets, villanelles and the like to cover his loss and to give the impression of having something to say. He wrote the poem as a slur on poets become erudite. What Bukowski meant and what I interpreted were entirely different. One thing you and Bukowski have is aversion to FORM, and perhaps it should stay that way.
ART by Charles Bukowski
“As the spirit wanes, the form appears.”
I remembered my own spirit waning after work, as I relaxed with a glass of wine and witnessed the appearance of “forms” that eventually found expression on paper. It seemed that Bukowski, too, had caught the notion that the cares of life and business inhibit creativity, the very notion I was feeling, but had never written as succinctly as his brief poem.
A year or so later I listened to a recording of Bukowski. He said that he wrote the poem to express angst at a trend among the poets in his circle. As the spirit of a poet wanes and becomes like a dead thing, a poet turns to forms such as sonnets, villanelles and the like to cover his loss and to give the impression of having something to say. He wrote the poem as a slur on poets become erudite. What Bukowski meant and what I interpreted were entirely different. One thing you and Bukowski have is aversion to FORM, and perhaps it should stay that way.
replying on The Perigenetic Prayer by ALChemy
8 Feb 2006, 1:39 PM
Don't under-praise yourself. Even Bertrand Russel sounds like the Bible if read with just the right amount of wine.
replying on Memoirs of a miners son by Caducus
7 Feb 2006, 6:05 PM
Agreed. I still think this is great.
replying on The Perigenetic Prayer by ALChemy
7 Feb 2006, 1:49 PM
Well, having satisfied my immediate concerns, let's see, what is you poem about? I feel almost Catholic reading it, but confused by "perigenetic" which led me to Imago. Had to look up perigenesis: "A theory which explains inheritance by the transmission of the type of growth force possessed by one generation to another." Still scratching my head on that.
The first verse sounds like Jesus talking to God the Father. But the second doesn't follow the way he spoke to his mother. Still, I like and relate to the second verse better.
The first verse sounds like Jesus talking to God the Father. But the second doesn't follow the way he spoke to his mother. Still, I like and relate to the second verse better.
replying on The Perigenetic Prayer by ALChemy
7 Feb 2006, 1:22 PM
My sister was saying just today:
I once had a good friend in black
Who felt a strange twinge in his back
With blood on my knife
He fled for his life
And we never quite got in the sack
I once had a good friend in black
Who felt a strange twinge in his back
With blood on my knife
He fled for his life
And we never quite got in the sack