Free verse № 121547
Apostrophetic Loss
Its an ambiguous shame
doesnt matter theyve said
tove lost jot and tittle
period and dash
for colloquialisms sake
Renegade poet comedians
Youd stop it but cant
your uncool theyd say
dims the word
havent a clue to incrowds code
Theydve cut vowels too but
couldnt agree
on clubs slang
so theyve invented bowâls instead
broken cool rules
makin other language its
my it your it
its a shame all its its
and theyve needed only it
Apostrophes end
or apostrophetic lossâ
24 comments
Iâm also sorry you found it dull, dull, dull, or maybe you meant the âin-crowd rulesâ not the poem. In any case it got some attention, and thatâs more than I can say for âThe Hawk.â
And what the hell are you talking about? The "renegade poet comedians" (except Jeremi) are the only ones writing correct grammar here.
PS-Bow'ls is a real word and real usage. Bet you've got no rebuttal but "Your unsupported"! Whatever.
For a while now, conservative elites have made common cause, sometimes cynically, with populist anti-intellectuals. Once upon a time, the original neoconservatives â the academics and intellectuals around the journal the Public Interest â rested their critiques of liberalism on penetrating social science scholarship and attacked the left for preferring bleeding-heart sentiment to polemical rigor. But now the Public Interest is defunct, and in the Bush years, conservatism has embraced not only the familiar ridicule of the eggheads but a rejection of the very legitimacy of independent, nonpartisan expert authority. The wisdom of legal professionals, such as those in the American Bar Association, is now denied, and, since George Bush took office, no longer used by the White House in evaluating candidates for federal judgeships. Mainstream journalism, such as that in the major newspapers and network news shows, is deemed liberal, slanted, and unreliable. The faith-based belief in creationism, enjoying renewed support of late, is accorded equal (or greater) weight as the scientific theory of evolution."
- www.slate.com/id/2114713/
2) Hey, thanks for pointing out that it's biased. I might have gone the rest of my life believing slate.com was a fair and balanced news source.
3) Unfortunately it's biased toward the side you're supposed to be on (pretty moderate liberalism), and it still thinks you're one of them.
4) And Slate writers are about a dozen times smarter than you.
5) I would be horrified at the suggestion (from anyone, really, except you) that I was either a hopeless conservative hick or shared qualities with hopeless conservative hicks. But then, I'm not the one the article's describing. You are.
6) And thanks a lot for demonstrating how bow'ls isn't a real usage, how the "renegade poet comedians" you hate now are somehow different from the stuffy bastions of conservative poetry you hated a few months ago, or anything else to justify anything in this post. You're a total clod when it comes to arguing anything.
Will you bother to answer it if I ask more concisely? Fine, and this is yet another measure of my love for you:
If you learned that we weren't unreasonably making fun of you, but were instead all reasonably and on our own initiatives making fun of you for being the silliest person ever, wouldn't you just die?
What exactly are you accusing Z of circumlocuting? Is he skirting some central point in order to avoid having to address it?
The basis for your saying I don't make any sense is pretty much 'I, Dovina, say so.'
The basis for your saying you're not sexist, racist, or anythingelse-ist is definitely 'I, Dovina, say so.'
Doesn't that seem like a pretty weak thing to base your whole conception of things on?
1) There's no connection between inappropriate apostrophe use and "renegade poet comedians" on poemranker except that two (maybe three) of them sometimes write "you're" as "your". They don't do that because they've got a problem with apostrophes; they do it because they're making fun of everybody on the site who confuses them all the time. In any event, that wouldn't be an apostrophe problem; it would be an apostrophe-AND-misspelling problem.
2) Again, colloquialisms and apostrophes are not necessarily related. Wherever colloquialisms ARE written, they're written with apostrophes. In fact, most colloquialisms are written with more apostrophes than standard English, as exemplified by the colloquialisms at this helpful site, Black Country Sayings: http://www.sedgleymanor.com...
3) "Renegade poet comedians"??? It seems like just a little while ago you were calling them stuffy bastions of conservative poetry. Anyway, are you aware of what a TOTAL REVERSAL that is? And I bet if I comment on someone's punctuation today, you'll be back on how I'm keeping poetic experimenters down with my strict adherence to Victorian standards. Without realizing you've spun so fast, you've left your britches still traveling in the opposite direction.
4) "dim" was the word about six months ago. Since then I've gone through periods of using "bum", "Retard Islam", and god knows what else. So, way to keep up! Glad to hear "dim" hurt the most, though!
5) There is no incrowd. No one says anyone's uncool on this site. Except me - I say you're uncool.
6) Bow'ls is an appropriate (though archaic) usage. Otherwise you'd have to pronounce it with two syllables. Anyway, no one here invented it.
7) By the way, bow'ls is SO two years ago.
8) As far as I can recall, no "renegade poet comedian" on this site has ever used dropped g's (ie, "makin") for a gag. You, however did affect an accent for an entire comment once (here: http://www.poemranker.com/poem-details.j
9) I'd say the "it" part is about me since I overuse it in my comments here, but you'll just say I'm totally unsupported it's about someone else, so whatever. I do have a problem overusing it on this site. If that's what you're talking about, good one.
10) In short, this poem is totally crap, not a poem, and grounded in some lunatic assumption that everyone on this site except blacksoul, al-nafiysh, and Dan g-B is unreasonably out to get you. I'm serious, that's what lunatics think.
If you're going to respond, "what a bunch of drivel i couldn't be bothered to read it or whatever", please don't. For one, it just makes you look like you're intimidated by reading more than a dozen words at a time. And for another thing, I went to the trouble of putting it in handy bullet-point format to avoid exactly that problem. Hey, thanks for paying attention!
2) Colloquialisms and apostrophes go together sometimes, sometimes not. I donât see how thatâs related to anything.
3) Apparently you have concluded that âstuffy bastions of conservative poetryâ are the same people as ârenegade poet comediansâ in my estimation. I hadnât thought of it that way, but maybe they are so inconsistent as to be so. Thank you for that inspiration.
4) Have I use a passé word, âdimâ? It just shows how out-of-touch I am with incrowd norms.
5) Many people on this site besides you say I am uncool, dim, dimtard or whatever the âinâ terminology may be at the time. If there is no incrowd, how do you explain your comments at http://poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp;j
6) But they use it.
7) They still use it.
8) I affect many atrocities. This is only one.
9) I should take credit when you admit a fault after I point it out. Thatâs the slanderous, incroud way to act. But I was not thinking of you when I wrote that.
10) No, I donât think you are out to get me. Heck, if I leave, youâd have only CLS to pick on. So show me just enough respect that I donât leave.
2) Um, how about, "lost jot and tittle period and dash for colloquialisms sake"? Anyway, it occurs to me that whether or not you find a colloquialism without apostrophes, periods, or dashes, you've still lost. Dropping punctuation doesn't make something necessarily colloquial or more colloquial. They're just not related, and you're probably just using the wrong word.
3) What the fuck?
4) No incrowd, sorry.
5) dim and uncool are unrelated. Um, I don't explain them. I was being sarcastic.
6) Latecomers use it. If I do sometimes it's because I'm lazy.
7) ibid.
8) What the fuck?
9) I don't think you have a very good idea about anything, incrowdish or not.
10) I'd hate for you to leave. If I've ever suggested anything of the kind, I'm truly sorry.
PS-Thanks for answering my points. It bothers me to no end when people don't.
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