Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.7.122	24-Mar-05/2:05 PM
Trivial example: Uncle and Uncle-2 are identical. They have a choice to be either open or closed minded. So what?
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.7.122	24-Mar-05/2:00 PM
Open mindedness brings truth. You have said it yourself in another way. Truth does not require inquiry to be discovered. It often comes unexpected. No assumptions need be made, but they are sometimes useful. A model with its assumptions is often helpful in discovering truth, but not always. God, I hope this clears up the matter.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.7.122	24-Mar-05/1:59 PM
I think you are not open minded enough to receive the truth.
Re: The Symbol by Dovina	jroday 204.215.34.196	24-Mar-05/1:27 PM
I really feel you on this one D.
Re: The Symbol by Dovina	blacksoul 204.215.34.196	24-Mar-05/1:21 PM
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Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	edpeterson 68.252.103.217	24-Mar-05/1:15 PM
Um. He said you suggestion was preposterous. Not you.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	richa 81.178.191.105	24-Mar-05/11:29 AM
Please explain yourself.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 82.39.21.223	24-Mar-05/10:34 AM
Oh, this.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 82.39.21.223	24-Mar-05/10:31 AM
Utter, utter tosh. By "two minds M and N are equivalent", I mean: For every proposition P, M is open to P iff N is open to P. That in no way entails that the two minds "belong to the same person". Trivial example: I replicate my uncle in an Uncle-replicator. Uncle and Uncle-2 are both open to exactly the same propositions, at least for a short while after replication. Therefore Uncle and Uncle-2's minds are equivalent with respect to openness. But Uncle and Uncle-2 are separate people. QED. Is this really beyond you, or are you deliberately being dim?
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	richa 81.178.191.105	24-Mar-05/9:33 AM
Models are what you use to understand the world. All models have assumptions that must be taken as given. Therefore there is no understanding without first accepting the model's assumptions. Noeone is arguing that having what would colloquially be called a closed mind may well contribute to a persons ignorance. But as usual you went too far by spouting pretentious nonsense about open mindedness bringing truth. I have provided two counter arguments (i) Truth requires enquiry which requires assumptions to be made that are taken as correct (closed mind). (ii) The person receiving the results of this enquiry uses schemata to hold the information which itself makes assumptions taken as correct.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	richa 81.178.191.105	24-Mar-05/9:16 AM
But you have no way to decipher what truth is because your mind is open. Therefore all you have done is taken truths and nontruths from outside of your head and placed them inside of your head. Except you have not because your head is not big enough to hold and conceive of the infinite number of models that could explain a given phenomenon.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	richa 81.178.191.105	24-Mar-05/9:13 AM
Are you serious? My argument has been consistent from the start based on what I saw as a flaw in your reasoning. You now claim I should be changing my mind because you don't accept that flaw, and that I do not is evidence of me not being open minded enough to receive truth?!
Re: criminal by durr_T_hip_E	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/8:21 AM
Sorry, don't get it overall. Some nice language.
Re: Amsterdam One by durr_T_hip_E	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/8:18 AM
I hope you're talking about the Rails-to-Trails project we have going in America, where abandoined railroad rights-of-way are being converted to bicycle trails. Revive the bicycle!
Re: a comment on stab in the dark by not_a_philosopher	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/8:10 AM
You assume belief is something you can turn on or off at will - nonsense!
Re: a comment on No Worries by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/8:00 AM
I don't know what position you think I am taking that is "goddamn madcap." Maybe it's the position of responding to every silky comment left on my poems.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/7:54 AM
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.'s Important Theorem is not very important. Here’s why. If there were an equivalent closed mind for every open mind – equivalent in every way except openness or closedness – then the two minds belong to the same person. The rest of your argument breaks down. Corollary: Dovina has said that minds have the ability to open themselves to the possibility of truthful input and they have the ability to close themselves to it.
Re: a comment on Reasonably Good by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/7:39 AM
I'm happy to be considered preposterous in your view. It gives me hope that I have not succumbed to the mire.
Re: a comment on Rusty knife to the kidney by INTRANSIT	Dovina 12.72.11.135	24-Mar-05/7:34 AM
Try "point of view." Maybe you'll find it easier to understand.
Re: Unfortunate Semen Incident by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.	Stephen Robins 213.146.148.199	24-Mar-05/7:23 AM
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