Re: a comment on Utensils of creation by Damien	zodiac 212.118.19.157	12-Apr-05/5:47 AM
What are you saying? Are you mad because somebody zeroed your poem? Um, that's called opening your poem to evaluation (on a site called poemRANKER) and that user's prerogative.
Re: Utensils of creation by Damien	zodiac 212.118.19.157	12-Apr-05/5:45 AM
"there" in the last line should be "their". Don't put commas at the end of every line, but do put it where it belongs. And some of these lines don't make sense or are simply wrong, especially the last two. I think you might have been more interested in the rhyme instead of saying what you meant.
Re: a comment on science by whispern_smoke_wisp	zodiac 212.118.19.157	12-Apr-05/5:32 AM
Sorry, whispern_smoke_wisp, but, seriously, what are you talking about then? Let me try to explain what I was commenting about. For one thing, you SHOULD believe in the article, and it was clear from the beginning you don't (hence all the comments). The article's not the problem. You're a little mistaken about what it's saying, though, and maybe that's why you don't agree with it. To clarify what it was ACTUALLY saying: Dogs are not whores or parasites. They evolved loving attitudes toward humans (and were in part domesticated because they had some loving-type behaviors to begin with) so humans would provide them with food and shelter. Despite that they have pretty shallow reasons for loving humans, they DO ACTUALLY love humans, like babies do, and for the same reasons, but unlike young women who marry rich elderlies or real wholes do. Is that clear? At least in terms of what the article's talking about (and whether or not you agree with it)? Sorry again. I'm trying not to be annoying.
Re: Utensils of creation by Damien	Damien 212.248.252.234	12-Apr-05/2:50 AM
Just say what you fell and understand when you judge you are destroying nothing from me
Re: Kansas City by PodPoet	jessicazee 64.12.116.135	11-Apr-05/11:48 PM
I wanted more...another 5 lines, please. 9
Re: a comment on science by whispern_smoke_wisp	Dovina 12.72.7.233	11-Apr-05/3:50 PM
As a memeber of this club, I do appologize for zodiac. He is quite annoying. However, you seem to be dodging the poem you have written by saying that you did not mean it. That's quite alright in most cases, but here I think you really did think that science had tried to squelsh some of the love between dog and human. If you did not think that, pray tell what you were thinking.
Re: a comment on science by whispern_smoke_wisp	whispern_smoke_wisp 64.12.116.195	11-Apr-05/3:20 PM
okay, i dont like to be rude, but im in a bad mood and you are being an idiot, okay, when did i say that i believed the article mentioned in this poem ..... ?!?!? NEVER........and by the way....its a poem NOT an autobiography, did you actually read it, or what, okay, why would i SHAKE MY HEAD to something i agreed with geez please try to not be this annoying
Re: a comment on trully, madly, deeply by Blindpoetry	Blindpoetry 70.186.160.225	11-Apr-05/1:13 PM
Thank you, Dr. Laura
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.38	11-Apr-05/5:25 AM
It’s meant to be hurried. The entire poem is direct, non-ironic, and marches toward this simple ending. It’s an isolated case of racial prejudice and happened just as stated.
Re: a comment on science by whispern_smoke_wisp	zodiac 212.118.19.35	10-Apr-05/9:55 PM
I think you missed the point of this 100%. What if I told you that humans evolved to love their parents so that, like parasites, they could get food and shelter? That's absolutely true, by the way.
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.35	10-Apr-05/9:50 PM
I am openminded about the past. I don't think the past should have anything to do with the present situation - which, as I see it, is pretty much: Black people still don't have freedom or equality of pay, opportunity, education, or power across the board. Sure, my greatgreatgreatgrandparents, had they been rich enough, would have enslaved yours, but also my grandparents are racist, belittle minorities, and deny them opportunities. My parents belittle minorities and deny them opportunities. And tons of people in my generation, myself probably no exception, continue the problem by often-unnoticeable actions. What I was trying to point out is that Dovina's thinking (in the poem) that the problem's solved now, was solved years ago, and she had nothing to do with it is simply nuts. Who needs to go back even a generation to find crimes/persecution against black people? And at the very least, I'd say Dovina has very few black friends in the outside world. Besides, what a preposterous suggestion - that one side's history of (and continuing) institutionalized oppression can be "balanced out" or "made up for" by black people whupping white ass for a while! If an intelligent black person's ever seriously considered it, I'm a stuck pig. And besides, black people have been ignoring white people in their verse, culture, etc, from the beginning. Only a Eurocentrist in the extreme would even imagine she had a place in black verse to be belittled. (For Dovina: Disagree? Consider checking out Gullah culture, Hoodoo culture, Slave culture, Jack Tales, the Harlem Renaissance, jazz, and hip-hop, to name a very, very few.) In short, I don't think you're going to give up your friendship with Dovina because of this poem, because I think you see, as I do, that Dovina doesn't really mean to be offensive; she just doesn't know very well what she's saying. That's all I'm trying to point out to her. Really, I've got no beef with Dovina except that she doesn't express herself very well. All things considered, her heart's pretty close to the right place.
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.35	10-Apr-05/9:32 PM
1) Only a Californian would think that. Maybe you live in Santa Barbara County (black population: 2%)? How did the bad black people you've encountered give rise to this poem? I'm genuinely curious.
Re: Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Alizarin_Crimson 24.250.22.18	10-Apr-05/9:28 PM
I like the subject matter, but I would re-do the ending, it seems a bit hurried.d
Re: Kansas City by PodPoet	New Life Drug 69.106.241.184	10-Apr-05/8:47 PM
kansas? innocent? BAH.
Re: the truth by i_am_the_popsicle	New Life Drug 69.106.241.184	10-Apr-05/8:46 PM
would have sounded better if "true" were replaced with "truth" although the meaning remains the same.
Re: trully, madly, deeply by Blindpoetry	New Life Drug 69.106.241.184	10-Apr-05/8:22 PM
"I'm the grain of sand Locked in the car Your the sun burning me I gotta get out and run for you" you're in love with someone and you can feel it, you are basically going insane with these feelings and loving/hating every minute of it.
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.1	10-Apr-05/6:49 PM
1) The freedom, authority, and power many Black people have recieved in recent years. 2) No 3) Yes 4) No 5) No 6) Yes, see below
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.1	10-Apr-05/6:46 PM
I’m sorry to hear that.
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.1	10-Apr-05/6:46 PM
Almost all of the Black people I have encountered have treated me with respect. A few exceptions gave rise to this poem.
Re: a comment on Middle-Aged White Woman by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.11.1	10-Apr-05/6:45 PM
Those people don’t know me very well either.