replying on There by Dovina
7 Mar 2006, 3:43 PM
We are talking about our perceptions of God, yours and mine. My perception is not the typical Christian God of the Bible, though I respect the Bible. I mix in my emotions about God, some logic, philosophy, and ideas from Buddahism and other faiths. Call it Dovina's god, if you wish, but I think there is only one God. Heck, I've even begun to consider some aspects of Alchemy's God.
Smart people don't have to make sense either.
I am teetering between thinking you are joking with me and thinking that you are totally serious. Our differences are small - really, that's what I think. And I don't think I have changed any of my statements to make a better argument. I think my position has been the same all along. I hope you have not taken the absurd things I have said as serious. I'll point them out for you if you ask, but in the past, you have usually known when I am joking.
I am teetering between thinking you are joking with me and thinking that you are totally serious. Our differences are small - really, that's what I think. And I don't think I have changed any of my statements to make a better argument. I think my position has been the same all along. I hope you have not taken the absurd things I have said as serious. I'll point them out for you if you ask, but in the past, you have usually known when I am joking.
on Portals to you by Caducus
7 Mar 2006, 2:32 PM
Number disagreement in every verse but 3 i.e., plural/singular. Portals are lint ghosts, for example, not lint ghost. "twelve goodbye's" should be goodbyes. Some missing commas. But I like the dawn of 12 goodbyes.
Wow, “scales” used as a pun for crocodile scales, which reminds of crocodile tears. And crocodiles smile too, did you know that? So smiles, tears and scales are crocodile puns. Then chords can also the bonds that tie up the monster. But you push me too far with “harm(onies)” – cheesy indeed. Then there is jazzed and jagged, the beginning and the end. Thanks, that’s what Poemranker should be.
on Brethren, oblivion is not the road to the city Ataraxis II by SupremeDreamer
7 Mar 2006, 12:53 PM
I was starting to get into this - understand your viewpoint, when I hit Verse 5 and the sudden introduction of the character "He." Since "brethren" is such a religious-sounding word, I assumed "He" is God and proceeded past the bump. Then as it gets back to your conundrum, I thought of Paul, and his sorting out of mixed pullings in writing to the Corintheans.
I don't see this as preaching, even though you're speaking to the brethren, but as trying to settle a chaotic mind.
You might want to reword, "do not restrain your tongue, offering words of quick apology or gracious forgiveness & accession," as it seems to conflict a former statement.
I don't see this as preaching, even though you're speaking to the brethren, but as trying to settle a chaotic mind.
You might want to reword, "do not restrain your tongue, offering words of quick apology or gracious forgiveness & accession," as it seems to conflict a former statement.
on thanks for shutting up by FreeFormFixation
7 Mar 2006, 12:14 PM
Great title.
on letting go too much by calliope
7 Mar 2006, 12:13 PM
The last line cliche is disappointment.
Waves move because the wind drives them, but the water in the waves only moves in little circles, with a small amount of foreward motion. So this edit is an improvement. The word "always" isn't quite right though, because sometimes waves are created by a long fetch of wind in a particular direction, but then they keep going after the wind changes or because the waves move beyond where the wind is. And the last line is troubling with "all" for similar reasons. Some life is not brought from the waves.
replying on Consolation by Dovina
7 Mar 2006, 11:45 AM
It's great to see someone reading these old poems. Thanks.
God can do what God wants. No rule prevents Him from doing this as far as I know. I was saying that in my humble judgemant, I would be very disappointed in God if I knew he had done something so egregious. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I fail to see why this has gone on so long and why you object so much to what I have said. Both of us have said that we do not understand God, and both of us have speculated on what God might be like. Hopefully, I have not presented my speculations as something I expect you to believe, thereby preaching to you.
Surely, you take as jest my asking you to put ashes on your head and repent, or telling you should go to hell to retrieve a woody. If I have preached, I must appologize.
The thing that bother me concerning your statements about God is simply this: You keep saying that God MUST follow rules, covenants and the like. Correct me if I have misunderstood you. Also correct me if I am wrong in saying that if God has to follow rules, then who, really, is God? If you answer that God made rules, and MUST obey them, my response is simply that God can change any rule He makes.
Surely, you take as jest my asking you to put ashes on your head and repent, or telling you should go to hell to retrieve a woody. If I have preached, I must appologize.
The thing that bother me concerning your statements about God is simply this: You keep saying that God MUST follow rules, covenants and the like. Correct me if I have misunderstood you. Also correct me if I am wrong in saying that if God has to follow rules, then who, really, is God? If you answer that God made rules, and MUST obey them, my response is simply that God can change any rule He makes.