replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 2:21 PM
You should have been here when me and Zodiac debated over what to call a non-designated gender.
replying on When God is Needed No More by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 2:18 PM
Me too. Thanks.
You seem a little on the inactive side lately.
Alaska's fucking with your sleep pattern ain't it.
You seem a little on the inactive side lately.
Alaska's fucking with your sleep pattern ain't it.
replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 2:05 PM
You don't want to be refered to as "It" or "He/she" do you?
replying on When God is Needed No More by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 2:02 PM
I have faith in you. You'll come up with one of those unique enigmatic phrases you're so famous for. My next one's a haiku. I'll probably post it early tomorrow. I expect nothing short of genius from you:)
Thanks man.
Thanks man.
replying on When God is Needed No More by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 12:11 PM
God bless you. You've got that part perfect. I meant Blake was my motive for sounding almost cheesy with the faithful parts and philosophical with the skeptic parts. Were I missed like you said is in the crumbling rhythm. Blake had great rhythm.
replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 12:01 PM
Oh look the irony detector went off:)
replying on On Golden Bond by jmalone
24 Jan 2006, 11:56 AM
You've heard terms like "Rough waters ahead" or "Bridge over troubled waters" or "Raging like a river". The grandmother's trying to keep those kind of waters in the boy still.
replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 11:50 AM
Most of ecargo's comments and poems lately imply womanhood. But the old stuff implies manhood. So, I don't get it either.
replying on When God is Needed No More by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 11:46 AM
Sure, it is a summary. Good children connects the start and end of the poem. It starts with the scene of some older, wiser person teaching or preaching or whatever you want to call it, to the children of the world. Considering the subject matter and my motive of putting skepticism and faith side by side harmoniously in a poem, it seems acceptable to me to use preachy, dogmatic and even a little biblical cliche language when representing the faith side of the poem. In short, you're noticing things I hoped you would but you're missing my reasons for putting them there. So in that way I've failed miserably. You've really given me alot to think about and I thank you.
replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 11:25 AM
Yes, it is good to know a man's genetics. So are you a man or a woman ecargo?
replying on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 11:07 AM
But only "when" you want us to be gentle.
on A moment, homeward by ecargo
24 Jan 2006, 9:57 AM
You've inspired me to write a haiku. A 10 for doing the impossible.
The last two lines in stanza 2 throw the rhythm off a little. I think "stands, locked and stillness" pretty much say the same thing so you could probably get away with losing one or two of those words and making the last two lines one. But let me know if you had a specific reason for those two lines and I'll change my mind.
The last two lines in stanza 2 throw the rhythm off a little. I think "stands, locked and stillness" pretty much say the same thing so you could probably get away with losing one or two of those words and making the last two lines one. But let me know if you had a specific reason for those two lines and I'll change my mind.
replying on Best left unsaid (trust first instincts edit, w/thanks) by ecargo
24 Jan 2006, 9:39 AM
Good point. This is why I rarely change my poems. I just use the suggestioins as consideration for my next poem. I really just wanted ecargo to experiment with her layout and pick what she liked. So many times people write their poems and then don't even think about trying different things after they finish the first draft. I bet you go through about 7 or 8 drafts before you consider one of your stories complete.
replying on A Schizophrenic by amanda_dcosta
24 Jan 2006, 9:20 AM
Is this PR, all these tens? Did you just pick up a publisher?
Just kidding:)
Just kidding:)
replying on Best left unsaid (trust first instincts edit, w/thanks) by ecargo
24 Jan 2006, 8:29 AM
No harm no foul. No I really wasn't expecting you to use the format I suggested. I just wanted you to 'er-uhm' play with it
and see what you could come up with. I'm more likely to nitpick a better poem like this one than a bad one.
and see what you could come up with. I'm more likely to nitpick a better poem like this one than a bad one.
replying on A Schizophrenic by amanda_dcosta
24 Jan 2006, 4:35 AM
By all means write happy when you're happy, sad when you're sad. Just use the right methods to convey your feelings so that others can feel it a little too. Put yourself in the shoes of your subject. That's all I meant.
replying on Topper Fey by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 1:21 AM
Topper was written first. I don't know, maybe I decided to change the spelling to designate a male and female version of the name like they do in spanish. It's connected. They're both about love and war.
It's a lyric so I guess you really need to pick a melody an fit the words into it the best you can but I'll see what I can do about the end.
It's a lyric so I guess you really need to pick a melody an fit the words into it the best you can but I'll see what I can do about the end.
on A Sheep’s Wish by Dovina
24 Jan 2006, 1:13 AM
Seems like you want them to be anything but rams. Good luck with that.
replying on A Schizophrenic by amanda_dcosta
24 Jan 2006, 12:58 AM
You may come across the popular poemranker critique "Show us don't tell us" and you'll think "what the hell is that supposed to mean. If so, I feel your pain. It's a generic comment made by those who are too lazy to explain what they mean. What they usually mean is that in some poems you should make the poem take on the characteristics of the subject. If it's a sad poem use sad words and slow rythm. If it's a happy poem use happy words and upbeat rhythm. Think about writing your poem in a parable style like Jesus did with his disciples. Now this isn't always the case. I am perfectly OK with scientific and philosophical approaches to poetry that avoid too much aesthetic imagery and are focussed more on the truth of reality. Anyway I just thought I'd let you know that here, it's a lot about "show".
replying on When God is Needed No More by ALChemy
24 Jan 2006, 12:37 AM
Some good comments on the meter and commas. Thanks, I'll work on it.
I considered changing "inherit the earth" but I couldn't resist leaving it in because it implies the death or retirement of a parent or of God. It also reinforces that the grown children are taking God's knowledge with them. Had I used a more obscure biblical reference the effect would have been lost.
It's quite hard to say something either pro or anti-god and not come out sounding a little preachy which is why I'm glad it doesn't bother you.
The teller of the poem is percieved an older wise person simply by the way the listeners are addressed in the poem.
So fresh language would come across as some young buck trying to tell you how it is.(Word up, yo)
"Compelling" would really come across as preachy.("The power of Christ compells you")
For my take on Lewis Carroll see:
http://poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?i d=135039
I considered changing "inherit the earth" but I couldn't resist leaving it in because it implies the death or retirement of a parent or of God. It also reinforces that the grown children are taking God's knowledge with them. Had I used a more obscure biblical reference the effect would have been lost.
It's quite hard to say something either pro or anti-god and not come out sounding a little preachy which is why I'm glad it doesn't bother you.
The teller of the poem is percieved an older wise person simply by the way the listeners are addressed in the poem.
So fresh language would come across as some young buck trying to tell you how it is.(Word up, yo)
"Compelling" would really come across as preachy.("The power of Christ compells you")
For my take on Lewis Carroll see:
http://poemranker.com/poem-details.jsp?i