Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	24-Dec-04/7:09 PM
The gist of the quote is that mothers (or mother's, if you prefer) are overworked. If blacksoul thought something like "Hmm, mothers are overworked. In a way, you could say they were handicapped, because they don't have enough hands to do all the work they need to do. And that's actually amusing because it's normal to have two hands! I know, I'll make that into a poeme!" then he would have independently invented something. But he obviously didn't think that. It would be a coincidence of bum-like proportions if that were the case. He just regurgitated a well known quote, virtually verbatim, with the only discrepancies being utterly inconsequential. If you're going to insist he has contributed his own unique slant on the idea, then you leave me no choice but to conclude that your brain has been severely damaged by an overwhelming barrage of flattery radiation, oozing daily from jroday and blacksoul's hobo-pores. As for the gross spacing: I can't see indentations on any of my comments. I never indent, because poemeranker doesn't seem to allow spaces at the beginning of a comment line (at least on my browser, which is Internet Explorer v6). Either you don't know what an indent is, or something is tits-up with poemeranker, or your browser, or mine.
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/5:21 PM
It was only plagiarism if he knew that way of saying it. I can know the idea "Know thyself," or know the gist of it, and say in in other words, and that's okay. Notice how my comments are nicely spaced, not grossly indented like yours.
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	24-Dec-04/5:16 PM
lol, only knew the 'gist'? What fucking more is there to know? Oh I see, he should have said "physically handicapped", and shouldn't have incorrectly inserted an apostrophe in "mothers". Nice one - not only is he a plagiarist, he's incompetent as well. All he did was remember a well known quote THAT WAS NOT HIS OWN, write it down as best he could, then PASS IT OFF AS IF HE WROTE IT. And you don't think that's plagiarism? All the work in this poeme has been done by the original author of the quote. All blacksoul has contributed is incompetence. And as for the indentations: I don't know what you're talking about -10-
Re: a comment on Lies of Society’s Guise by PsydewaysTears	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/2:52 PM
Society Disguised? Society's Dupe?
Re: a comment on Lies of Society’s Guise by PsydewaysTears	PsydewaysTears 69.240.74.35	24-Dec-04/2:18 PM
And besides, it's not actually "society's" lies that the poem is talking about, it about my own lies of how I disguise society in my mind. •°•Gregory James•°•
Re: a comment on Lies of Society’s Guise by PsydewaysTears	PsydewaysTears 69.240.74.35	24-Dec-04/2:16 PM
I like the sound of it the way I put it. But then again, I'm a sucker for a good silly rhyme any day of the week. :D
Re: Writer's Block by Bhaskaryya	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/12:21 PM
And thus you wrote this. Try reading some of the ridiculous comments on Poemranker. They're inspiring! "I can't catch a single one on paper"
Re: Lies of Society’s Guise by PsydewaysTears	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/12:15 PM
"Lies of Society’s Guise" is redundant. Why not "Lies of Society."
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/11:58 AM
You are the buffoon here for your ridiculous accusation of plagiarism and your more ridiculous trying to support it. You already agreed that he probably did not know that particular quote, only that he might have known the gist of it. And why are you unable to figure out how to avoid the indentations?
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.6.101	24-Dec-04/11:39 AM
You and I seem to have vastly differing concepts on both logic and romanticism. Your first paragraph says that not following the rules of logic is dim, thus eliminating romantic and emotional expressions from intellectual discussion. Your argument uses “a scientific paper” as an example. Obvious, a scientific paper must be logical, but what does that have to do with the discussion at hand? You then say that because I claim that a poem that ignors the restraints of logic is okay, that I am claiming it to be magical. For the second time, let me say that “magical,” in my opinion, refers only to well-written poems, logical or not. Next, you say that what I seem to want is for the ideas expressed in poetry to be beyond reproach. How silly! I criticize ideas in poems posted here almost daily, and welcome criticism on mine. I wish to be examined on an “intellectual level,” as you say, and on other levels. And why would you say that I consider rhyming important when my poems seldom rhyme? I don’t get it. And will you now say I don’t get it because I am dim and write bow’ls? Can we have a sensible discussion on this subject, or is it best to just call each other names and walk away?
Re: Wigging out by Jeremi B. Handrinos	Bhaskaryya 61.0.144.7	24-Dec-04/9:05 AM
A Sestina, wow!! That's real tough!! I did one today but damn, this is million times better!! Do check me out if you could!! 10!!
Re: Possibilities by Nicholas Jones	Bhaskaryya 61.0.144.7	24-Dec-04/9:02 AM
Class in glass!!! 10!!!!
Re: I have Learned to Let Go by Joe-joe	Joe-joe 68.194.47.34	24-Dec-04/6:08 AM
Hey Zodie, lighten up...or are you still upset about that little wild goose chase I sent you on a while back... you can attack my writing all you'd like but the fact of the matter is that I could sell you ice in the North Pole if I so desired. I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year!! Peace Joe
Re: I have Learned to Let Go by Joe-joe	Joe-joe 68.194.47.34	24-Dec-04/6:04 AM
After hours of pondering, I've opted for theory number 1. Yes, all poets are dim and all poetry is nonesense, some are just dimer and more nonsensical than others.
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	24-Dec-04/5:35 AM
You buffoon. If any rewording did take place, it almost certainly happened because he just didn't remember the original quote accurately. And besides, the only difference between this poeme, and the Tanguy quote (which, as I said, is just one example), is that he has removed the word "physically" and incorrectly inserted an apostrophe in "mothers". What a stroke of genius. You're being quite, quite silly about this whole thing, Dovina. Every time I read something that means something to me, which happens pretty much every time I read something I like, does that mean it isn't plagiarism to replicate it almost to the word, post it as a poeme, then pass it off as my own?
Re: blacksoul/disable/reply by jroday	jroday 204.215.34.245	24-Dec-04/4:43 AM
Sorry Dovina about deleteing your comment. I've got to get use to that red x damn. But it's me Felicia.
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	richa 81.178.233.69	24-Dec-04/3:02 AM
The relevance of my professor example is that the most important factor in being able to communicate an idea is understanding that idea. The better the understanding the easier it is to transform into metaphor and relate to other concepts it impacts upon.
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	richa 81.178.233.69	24-Dec-04/2:59 AM
OK, I will put it more simply. When someone expresses an opinion, if that opinion does not follow rules of logic in terms of concluding from the premises that opinion is dim. If someone writes a scientific paper and makes conclusions that don't follow from the premises that can be said to be dim. You claim if someone writes a poem that ignores the restraints of logic that is ok. Therefore you are inferring a magical property to poetry. What you seem to want is for ideas expressed in poetry to be beyond reproach. That is to say you can say what you like and not be examined on an intellectual level, only on a poetic (that it rhymes) level, which is bow'ls.
Re: a comment on I have Learned to Let Go by Joe-joe	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	24-Dec-04/2:14 AM
Who said they weren't different?
Re: a comment on Love-A=? by sir_heff	sir_heff 65.13.72.62	23-Dec-04/11:52 PM
since A wrote the poem, that should be painfully evident