Re: a comment on I have Learned to Let Go by Joe-joe	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/6:37 PM
Only you think I think that's a contradiction. These theories are different.
Re: a comment on Disable by -=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/6:31 PM
ass wagon, you retributor
Re: Upon a Wooden Cross by wolfinaunicornsuit	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/5:54 PM
You've lost me here. Except for a few glimmers, I'm looking into darkness. What's going on?
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/5:25 PM
It is not obvious where you get the idea that I believe poetry is magical. Your argument does not support your opening statement. Poems that fail to embrace the rules of logic can actually be good poems if they are well written from a sentimental, emotional, or other non-logical perspective. They are inherently no more or less magical than logically written poems. You have given an example a an unsophisticated man trying to talk and perhaps write among sophisticates, and not doing as good a job of it as a professor could. I see no relevance of this example to the subject. I agree with you that to be able to transform an idea is to better communicate it. But there are many ways to do that.
Re: a comment on "oh" by fevriere	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/5:08 PM
Wow, that's almost as Boolean as DA's comment, and a twist of what I said. Illigical poems can be either dim or bright, as can logical poems.
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/5:02 PM
Seldom does one of us invent something. He worded a familiar idea because it meant something to him.
Re: a comment on Scapegoat by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/4:59 PM
Merry Christmas to you and your father. May he recover and be relieved of the epilepsy that has plagued him.
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	23-Dec-04/3:51 PM
Look the point is it's not an original quote. It's smeared all over the internet, for starters. Then there's the fact that you've also heard it before. The Tanguy link was just one example. Are you seriously suggesting blacksoul independently invented it?
Re: Scapegoat by Dovina	blacksoul 204.215.33.137	23-Dec-04/3:36 PM
I like it Dovina. I'll be spending my Christmas at the hospital. You have a Merry Merry Christmas.
Re: blacksoul/disable/reply by jroday	blacksoul 204.215.33.137	23-Dec-04/3:28 PM
A child who is understood becomes someone who understands.I was taught that all my young life.
Re: a comment on "oh" by fevriere	richa 81.178.233.69	23-Dec-04/2:51 PM
No, not liking a poem because it is illogical is clearly dim, as you said.
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	richa 81.178.233.69	23-Dec-04/2:49 PM
It is obvious where we get the idea you believe poetry to be magical. You seem to believe that poems that fail to embrace the rules of logic can actually be good poems. As for this poem, you fail to communicate any insight on the subject. Where in the poem does it talk about imagination and poetic ability. I would add that the most important thing in translating an idea into a poem is that you understand the idea. Take for instance 'A dedication to the Golden Bird~' by Bhaskaryya. The poet who is a negro has clearly been told that having negroes in white society is good. However he has no idea why, so he clumsily throws in words like ethnicity and diversity hence being unable to make any insight whatsoever. Why do you think professors are better at explaining theories to students than other students who merely understand the basics. To understand is to be able to transform and hence better communicate an idea.
Re: there's no way out by oneglove	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/1:15 PM
More kind to whom?
Re: a comment on there's no way out by oneglove	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/1:14 PM
begin-agains
Re: a comment on Disable by blacksoul	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/1:07 PM
I've heard it stated similarly before too. Since blacksoul did not use the exact wording, I doubt if he even knew about the Tanguy quote.
Re: a comment on "oh" by fevriere	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/11:45 AM
If it's a simple thing, like a duck eating bread, why complicate it?
Re: a comment on Math Poem by Dovina	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/11:43 AM
Again you have said opposites and then attempted to unite them. Alas, I accept bumness as your most current opinion of me. And as such I write bum poems. Where you get the idea that I think poetry is magical or ephemeral, escapes me. How well would a painter, or a truckdriver like INTRANSIT, or a sculptor like auscot, or a painter like van Gogh, write poetry. That, of course depends on two things - having the imagination needed to put a well understood profession into commonly understandable terms, and poetic ability. Are we clear now? This whole discussion seems insanely inane. I'm bored!
Re: "oh" by fevriere	richa 81.178.233.69	23-Dec-04/11:28 AM
Fine idea for a poem. Not sure the relevance of the sea allusions. 'A syllable aches' would probably be better.
Re: a comment on "oh" by fevriere	richa 81.178.233.69	23-Dec-04/11:24 AM
a dim reason for disliking a poem if ever I heard one.
Re: a comment on "oh" by fevriere	Dovina 69.175.6.101	23-Dec-04/11:21 AM
You must forgive DA, he's a Boolean Creation who doesn't like your poem because it's illogical. On second look, I think she gulped some seawater and said, "Oh." But if that's all there is, then I think it's too complicated for its message.