zodiac
replying on Suicide of the Ego by Drifting Shadow
31 May 2004, 4:39 AM
"And I doubt it brainwashed him anyway"
LOL!!!! Oh, my!
Beautifl ode to an unborn child--I love this line:
Close to faraway from everyone
You were meant to post the replies to me...and I learn from them...their is a connection and you could also learn something here...and if you can't admit that...that is ego holding you back with your understanding because you don't appear to like me and you will be so sure in yourself "he cant possibly have anything that I donât know, I am better than him" and if that is so then it is quite pathetic coming from a woman who claims to have been through all that stuff because it shows that you have ran away from your lessons. Either that or you lied to me about yourself.
Nobody is right, no body is wrong.
Youâre the fish and Iâm the worm? You are already the fish in a way because it was you that originally bitten... and if you do want to play that game I will be happy to oblige.
I didn't accuse you of being afraid I was aiming that at zodiac... the easiest way to have someone run right into this brainwashing trap is to accuse them of being afraid... I just wanted to give something that I found, that's all...and it is amazing... for the first time in my life I donât hate myself, for the first time in longer than I can be bothered to think back I am not suicidal and I never attempted it again since I found this.
You are not your past; you are the one who walked through it.
It is quite funny though that you gave me such a reaction... I never even tried to rattle you... I must have a natural talent for upsetting people lol.
Lol this illusionary soapbox is what you put me on to try and understand what has been going on here...and if you look, it is you that stands on the soapbox, nothing second hand here I am my own creator.
If words are cheap does that not also make your poetry cheap?
Hmmm, you say I am a shit poet and thatâs all you need to know...but you don't really know that do you, you seen nothing of my poetry but for what I have posted under this name, in fact under another name of mine I got one or two good comments from you.
As for being fooled into thinking you have some other identity...no I am not. I just see the possibility you are not who you say you are...and I donât really care either way.
Genuine? Does it really matter whom you are honest with as long as you can be honest with yourself?
Why not chat on yahoo messenger? You may be surprised, I am actually very nice underneath the insidious evil D.r Mindfuck act.
i might even make an attempt in the next couple of days to post another poem, and i know you'll want to read it, and will probably slag it off too lol.
Godâs wife, hope you feel better after youâre rant.
Ok Iâll cut the brainwashing here...but remember this...anyone who gets brainwashed makes that choice...zodiac made the choice to keep coming back here...I may have thrown a little manipulation in but it is still a choice. And I doubt it brainwashed him anyway, I thought I was pretty easy going on him.
You say that I am self centred but I do this stuff out of empathy because like yourself...I really know what it is to suffer, Iâm not going into details of my past but I will say that I been through 3 metal illnesses, drug addiction and alcoholism...can you imagine the sort of crap I went through to drive me to that...and the further crap that it brought into my life?
This stuff was the only way out for me, so in a way there is a part of me in the poem.
If your brains and feelings are turned to shit through life then what better way to get yourself through it than brainwashing yourself? Thatâs my attitude towards the brainwashing deal, it is not nothing that you get out of it is just the nothing that you find within.
Your psychic abilities jump through the roof and you can see so much more than before but before you can do that, you have to accept that you know nothing...and no, I aint some religious nut, I donât follow any religions or cults. I just follow what I find inside myself. And learn.
As for being self centred that is exactly what we all are if we are honest...even those who go around helping others...they are only doing it because it feels good to them or makes them feel more righteous than others in some way.
A bit like you replying so that you could tell yourself that you are better than me...when I never think that...everyone is equal, so where is the egotism? I offer something to share and learn from others also...where is the egotism?
Yes this is poem ranker and people didnât understand my poem...so I tried to show them what I did to myself.
You been alive for a long time, but my spirit has been down here for thousands of years I have but 2 lifetimes left down here...attack that if you will but that is also more I found within.
Ego isnât the best word to use for what is disintegrated...but the only one close... the trouble with language is that there is so much that words cannot explain.
I am not sorry that you been through all you have, as Iâm sure your not sorry about it either.
I understand your poem, despite your inability to communicate poetically. The point of art, and especially the written arts is to share experience and knowledge, to make what you've learned accessible. If it were true that 'I do not understand' your discourse, who's fault would that be? But as I said I understand your point. there is nothing that I and my nifty brainsky cannot comprehend.
I don't want anything from you with the exception of a well crafted poem. That's why I'm wasting my time here, asshat, for poetry. This is not philosphyranker.com, nor brainwashingranker.com.. It's poemranker.com, get it?
I've been through rape, murder, betrayal, love, hate poverty etc., I've been alive a long time, I'm not afraid of you or your stupid questions, bring it on asshat.
This time you're the fish, I'm the worm.
You speak of the obliteration of the ego, but it's all talk. Words are cheap. In the 3 odd years I've drifted in and out of this hole there has only been one other with an ego bigger than yours. You are a shit poet, that's all I know, and all I care to know about you and your soapbox second hand sophistry.
You remind of one of those assholes who kidnap young people and claim to de-program them for their fucked-up parents, or you could be a precocious 13 yr. old who thinks he already knows everything. Either way, I don't care, because you are a crap poet. This world is full of self-centered people, and it looks to me like you're just one more on the pile.
p.s. I have never been, am not currently, and will never be anyone else but myself, do not be fooled into thinking I might have some other identity, I am genuine. If you read even one of my fucking poems you'd know that, my little pompano.
this made me all floaty 8/10
yer we sit on top of til chowin grass and shagin sheeep.
Dont you have dyslecsics where you come from?
I love the way you always correct my spelling.
yourjust like a real wife picking out silly little things
and not looking at what realy matters?
simple and sweet
well said!!
while the quality of your poems is staying constant, you need to find new material... go back to all of your poems; how many, when summed up, have the same underlying inspiration? if you're still having trouble leaving this topic, try telling it from one or both of the guy's perspective(s), could be interesting
nice touch changing your name to anonymous by the way fish
So now we either have zodiac using another name and posing as a woman or I have reeled myself in another fish,
How do you know that what you donât understand is crap? Maybe it's denial that there is something that you and your brain cannot comprehend?
Zodiac, so if I am telling the truth and I am right on how to spell it, then I corrected you coz I knew with your ego that you would have to retort with something⦠or if I lied and I spelt it wrong that was also because I knew you would be backâ¦so you see? Both ways i cast out and you bit once more...point being whatever the spelling I used it as leverage to get you to comment again. a lot of people on this website are so petty about spelling, and what does it matter?
Now... about this issue of you running from my questions and still returning here... are you ready to admit you donât have all the answers you think you do?
you can go away now zodiac, we have no further interest in you.
So go on....tell them that you won...when you could have taken something for your mind from here, so in fact you have lost. lol
and you'll probably be floating on and off this page for the next few days to see if i do reply to your next reply, but am i just saying this to bring you back on here or not?
I donât win you donât win, I had fun, I hope you did to, but it would be quite funny if I upset you.
I wonder if godâs wife wants some questions? And if she would answer them? Unlike zodiac, maybe she has something to bring and may possibly be open minded enough to take something from this? And I promise and not to refer to you as a fish if you be good and answer, and i'll answer yours as sensibly as we can
i wasn't actually 'calling it a rule' ... just... something I say. A figure a speech some may call it? *shrugs*
I was merely asking in an interrogative way.
And why not comment? You do not believe in constructive critiquing?
No it isn't, you dunce. The site is poemeranker. A site devoted to the ranking of poemes. Any other activities are incidental, and frankly I think it's appalling that comments are allowed at all.
The rule is, killingjuliet, that you gotta support your opinion on why you put down a two.
Even if it is 'It just sucks', I really want to know.
:)
The main problems with this poem are that the thing with the pronunciation guide for the names is ridiculous; you should know how to pronounce it when you see it. So "Pondrine" should be "Pondreh Ni" or something such, "Taeks" should be "Taieks," and "Aark" should definitely be "Gaydvark". Leaving them lower-case doesn't help. And no one should be given a particular name just to make a rhyme.
Also, your poem is sadly lacking in pointlessly repeated words and jarring exclamatories. See how much better the following verse sounds than yours.
The Elvish Prince went riding, riding,
Riding out to the sea.
Full many a worthy fellow had he!
A ranger, a dwarf, and mages three
Had he in his hurrying company.
And their stealthy cloaks went gliding, gliding
(Through hollow and tree!
Fum! fettle! fee!)
As the Elvish Lord went riding, riding
Out to the Western Sea.
I wish I had a digital version of this, though. Unfortunately, I only recorded it on analog four-track with tamborine, kazoo, bongos, and some fake Ace of Base-style German industrial vocals on the pre-chorus. Seriously. It totally rules.