poetandknowit
on California triolets by zodiac
8 May 2004, 11:51 PM
Reading Lawrence without the D.H. and drinking Chivas how ghastly laughable and remarkably âoh my darling I have this English degree so I just might as well spout what I know here and now.â Anyway, where was I now? âRibbony (I am a writer therefore I can make up words just like my long dead hero cummings â huh â he had cum in his mane dude) roads?â Exactly (now you are in Nevada home of the E.T. Highway so maybe you were abducted and taken to a land where roads are of a substance much lighter than concrete and asphalt) what is the literary objective here. Hmmm. Letâs see. Ribbony. Circular. You are in Nevada. There are no cloverleaf highways except in Las Vegas. Oh. I love it. Lawrence without the D.H., Chivas and Las Vegas. How so post modern and decadent like all at the same time. Or ribbony â meaning narrow, as in strip as in reference to endless. It is Nevada, drive where you like. Breathe the beautiful air. Love again. At least triolet is close to toil or toilet, which oddly enough is where I must go now.
What bow'ls.
No because your letting her know how you feel
I wrote this for my Mother who I'm not on good terms with do you think it was too mean to give as a Mother's Day gift?
liked it
Pinsky's Inferno is supposed to sound like Dante'. If it doesen't, then it has failed, no matter how good it may be.
Exactly.
Pinsky's Inferno, which is on my shelf at the moment, is extremely good. It just doesen't sound at all like Dante
Robert Pinsky's Inferno is already ultra-ace. This isn't bad. I know I'm supposed to be making fun of you again. Consider yourself momentarily reprieved.
I find myself inclined to critique this seriously, who knows why, so here goes:
1) Drop the comma after "sway" in the first stanza.
2) Change "swiftly moving" to something else.
3) Say what color, pattern, etc. the bedcloth is, rather than simply saying it's tacky.
4) "as" in line 2 of stanza 2 should be "like" or nothing.
5) "nightstand new" is awkward; why didn't you say it in a way that made sense?
6) "it's" should be "its", and that whole clause is worded completely awfully.
7) "upward" is bad; stare at a water-stain in the shape of a beautiful woman, a light-fixture, or almost anything else.
8) The ellipses in the penultimate line are terrible. When people do that, it makes me feel like the last line is supposed to be a punchline, which is a ridiculous thing to put in a poem and a ridiculous way to set it up. I find that a comma, appositive or some interjection works a lot better to pause the poem a bit before the end; something like:
but the truth, I think now, is that
it just etc etc.
That's awful, I know, but you get the idea.
9) I wish you'd kept up the soft rhyme from the first stanza; it was nice.
some deleted user
replying on The follies befalling an unfledged street poet. by SupremeDreamer
8 May 2004, 4:14 PM
I don't have clear criteria for my votes. I just thought it was an extra-good poem, but not one of the few "best" poems that I have given 10's to. Admittedly, my votes depend on my mood and the weather also. Perhaps you're coming to that.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.
replying on The follies befalling an unfledged street poet. by SupremeDreamer
8 May 2004, 4:06 PM
You clearly put a great deal of thought into your votes, and I think that's very mature of you. Did you think you should give it a -9- as opposed to an -8- because it is a cut above the poemes you usually vote -8- on?
some deleted user
replying on The follies befalling an unfledged street poet. by SupremeDreamer
8 May 2004, 3:58 PM
Yes.
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I.
replying on The follies befalling an unfledged street poet. by SupremeDreamer
8 May 2004, 3:52 PM
Did you think to yourself: "Yes, this is a good poeme, and I can relate to many of the mastakes it describes, but it just doesn't have that special something which all -10- poemes must have. So I'll give it a -9-"?