Also the Irish stuff is 'Whiskey'. Check yer facts, Mr Strider

-ULT

my question is, how does one TURN ON a washing machine... sidelong glances from behind the Tide box?

good thing you didn't hit a cat.

thks for ur compliments about my name.... de la bog that's is the beuty of art.... someone see's a poem and gives it 10, someone elses sees it and gives it 1... nobody see's the same picture

Your words are just so condescending. I realize now you don't mean them to be, but they truly are.

She's innocent and needs your protection. you'll work hard for her and keep her safe from reality. She'll have your babies. Your the White Knight (ok, the Cafe con Leche Knight) and she's the damsel in distress. She is the purpose of your life, sounds very romantic but in reality it's a recipe for disaster.

i apologize for the rudeness of that last comment. i was misreading your words. i think perhaps others have as well, and that is why the comments have had a certain flavor to them.

Can I ask how they are machista?

I specifically said virginity is not important to me, read more carefully. I never said anything about me wanting a virgin for god sake!!!

If she's that way now she probably always will be. I didn't think of innocence in that connotation. You're right it would spoil everything. The images you provide are just so classically machista. You live in a similar environment that I've struggled most my life to escape and then try to change. So I jumped on your ass. Keep fighting and listening.

what if the person whom she cares for is, in your opinion, scum? how are you the final authority? and that is very different than the line i quoted. perhaps you do not even realize that you want to cage her. your comment to mrs.god shows that you want her to be virginal, perfect. people are not perfect. ever. will you still love her if she masturbates? what if she was raped as a child? will that destroy her beauty for you? can you not love her for her heart? get a dog. laws are less strict on cruelty to animals.

Again as I have explained in the other poem, innocence does not mean the exact same thing as virginity. I dont know about her sex life. She is the fantasy of my perfect wife because hell, I can just tell when I look in her face. We are completely in sync with eachother. It has nothing to do with sex. I could care less if she's a virgin or not. She is my thought of a perfect wife because, she has been the only girl in my life that I could ever picture myself actually going through a marriage with, and the only girl I have ever pictured growing old with

the women in your poem are delegated the classic roles of either virgin(innocence) or whore. The men are either villians or heroes. She fullfills your fantasy of the perfect wife, why?

We have already been friends for a long time. The children are not the idea of the whole poem, that is simply a pleasant street dream. Innocence is not always meant to be linked with virginity/having previous lovers. She is innocent in this case because in everything she does, there is no malice, no scheming, no behind the back type of thinking. If there was then yes, that would spoil everything.

The line before that says "Im better than the scum out there" which illustrates that I want to be there for her so that she wont end up with a scum boyfriend.

You worship her beauty and her innocence. That is objectifing. If she had lovers previous to you would that spoil everything? You specifically articulate your desire for her to have your children. What if she could not? What if she didn't want children? Would that change your feelings for her? Don't be afraid to let her mature and experience life. you workon finding out who you are, she works on finding out who she is and the all the while you offer each other a non-judgemental friendship.

Okay I dont know where in the poem I ever mirrored an image of different gender roles for men and women. I did say I want to protect her though, and that is in the sense of safety-real physical safety. It is not about virginity, it is about providing for her, stuff like that, I don't mind if she gets a job or does anything like that, I dont care what she wears, or anything like that. I dont want to control her life, I just want to be there to protect her when she does need me.

"I'll protect her from the disease of reality." i.e., from life itself, ergo, cage her up