Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50	7-Apr-05/7:38 AM
But what if God's plan is "to provide a strong leader if, and only if, X number of people pray for a strong leader"? In praying for a strong leader, you can influence the outcome of God's actions, but have you really changed his will? His will was always to provide the leader provided enough people prayed for it.
Re: Church of Puerto Vallarta by James Rykelangeli	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/6:35 AM
Consider making more, shorter sentences.
Re: Hard Rock by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/6:22 AM
I used to think "Jesus, how lucky I was to have been born in America in the twentieth century and not in Africa, the Dark Ages, or outer space!" Then I realized what a stupid thing it was to say that.
Re: a comment on Make Music in Your Heart by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/6:16 AM
You just think that because we don't make comments like "How nice it is to make music as a metaphor for writing" just to show how ace we are for getting it.
Re: a comment on Moments (or) Suicide by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/6:03 AM
By the last "evaluation", do you mean something like "value" or "worth"? If so (and that's not at all clear) maybe it would be better to use the word "valuation" instead. PS-I don't see why you don't have to judge your life by all the times that weren't Moments. I imagine if I were some total slob with no Moments except for achieving a single spectacular "arrival", which also happened to kill me. Would I go to heaven?
Re: a comment on No Worries by Dovina	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/5:44 AM
Oh, so can we define closed-mindedness from here on as: "Closed-minded people refuse to consider a proposition for reasons other than its content OR for reasons related to its content"? Hey, thanks a lot.
Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/5:37 AM
I see what you mean. By the same token, looking at why I'm wearing a striped shirt under a plaid sportcoat, courderoys, and sandals on a balmy summer day in the MidEast is going to lead nowhere. You could try addressing it from my position, but that would require squatting bareassed over a two-inch wide hole in the floor while feebly trying to force your raisin'd insides into some kind of productive motion. And I wouldn't recommend it if it's at all avoidable. The validity of prayer is mostly that it makes people prone to illogic and feelings of powerlessness feel good. No one's denying that. Considering, though, that this argument's about Jesu's Gethsemene prayer, and He's neither of those, it's just not very relevant. re the last bit: Oh... Well it's been nice talking to you. Sort of.
Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/5:28 AM
I was raised Catholic. You obviously weren't.
Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/5:26 AM
Consider the following chart: God doesn't want a strong leader + Man prays = No strong leader. God doesn't want a strong leader + Man doesn't pray = No strong leader. God wants a strong leader + Man prays = Strong leader. God wants a strong leader + Man doesn't pray = Strong leader. 1)In any of the instances above, did praying actually change God from doing what He was already planning on? 2) So what good is praying then? 3) What truth are Catholics strayed from? If your answer is "The truth that -=Baptist=- or some other Christian God is better", let me tell you that's just not going to happen. 4) You still didn't say "But Your will be done" in the poem. That's still the whole point. 5) Can you answer a question without babbling irrelevantly? What if it's a question from God? What about this one: "Are you still so dull?" - Jesus, Mt 15:16
Re: a comment on Arab Shepherd (a belief poem for Dovina) by zodiac	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/5:08 AM
The original pillar of salt (i.e., formerly Lot's wife) is about 10 miles from here. Here's a picture: http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/salt_pillar.jpg
Re: a comment on Arab Shepherd (a belief poem for Dovina) by zodiac	zodiac 212.118.19.212	7-Apr-05/4:55 AM
Yes, that about covers it. The non-parenthetical part is the real title. The parenthetical part is so you'll read it. I've been afraid you don't anymore. I wonder which you think you are: standing, walking against the wind, or walking with the wind. I really couldn't say. Me, I'm probably the guy who walks against till it changes and then walks against again. 'Twas isn't Old English. It's not even necessarily Middle or Shakespearean English. It was used in poetry as late as Robert Frost, whom this poem is basically a halfassed word-substitution of. (Hence the maintained meter, hence the cumbersome sentence.) To be fair, I could have used "It's no more toil" and been grammatically and metrically correct. I just didn't think people'd find 'twas olden.
Re: a comment on Down on Dogs by Bobjim	Bobjim 81.156.151.89	7-Apr-05/4:10 AM
s the comments show, you are the first person to notice. Congratulations. However, in my award acceptance speech, you will notice that I freely admit to having no talent and plagiarising frequently. You pointing me out as a fraud was therefore unnecessary.
Re: Down on Dogs by Bobjim	some deleted user 217.37.170.17	7-Apr-05/2:34 AM
This is a great poem, however it is not your poem. It was written by Robert Rankin, and from memory it appears in his book "A Dog Called Demolition." Its an excellent book, and I notice that Bobjim has nicked a whole host of poems from there. FRAUD!
Re: Mixtapes (or We Always End Where We Began) by philn	thepinkbunnyofdoom 4.224.24.166	7-Apr-05/1:24 AM
The 1st stanza after side b, sucked. Other than that, I can't really place what I don't like about it. -6-
Re: Arab Shepherd (a belief poem for Dovina) by zodiac	sliver 64.12.116.135	6-Apr-05/10:42 PM
And yet still you stand.
Re: famous by crooked_smile	Plaidypus 68.227.185.82	6-Apr-05/10:41 PM
Jack Handy, look out....
Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	sliver 64.12.116.195	6-Apr-05/10:19 PM
Yes, I did ask for a specific, isn't that what we all do most of the time? Dear God, I want a pony with a white mane and a little spot on his nose. Thank You. Do you ever really pray? Do you understand the efficacy of prayer? If you did, you would understand. Do you know what the rosary is? If you have no FAITH? OOH that's a strong word, and it means so much.
Re: a comment on Prayer For The Church by sliver	sliver 64.12.116.195	6-Apr-05/10:08 PM
I merely ask that St Joseph, as the foster father of Our Lord, and the protector of the Church,consider the state of the Church, as it is today, and help them to elect a leader with the strength to do what is right. To bring Catholics back to the truth, and maybe the rest.
Re: a comment on No Worries by Dovina	Dovina 12.72.2.179	6-Apr-05/8:35 PM
So I am being told. When I read them, I see several ways of saying the same thing. Would you care to speculate on why that might be. Perhaps you'd like to reiterate one of the the usual Dovina-dimtard answers or perhaps something like, "This is a consequence of trying to make Dovina see she is a 'woman' and therefore innately bad at arguing."
Re: a comment on No Worries by Dovina	richa 81.178.145.183	6-Apr-05/2:22 PM
I have defined closed mindedness in several ways. And therein, Dovina, lies the problem.