SupremeDreamer
on Goodbye by shadowaura
4 Sep 2003, 7:09 PM
notice how you keep talking about the same things? widen your view, there is more in the universe than tears, you simply need to wipe them away and see.
I know you.. your the ghost of poetry past. 7
weep, why? for there is knives a plenty. 8.
DA,
I think your first point about the old testament is wrong. Jesus established and NEW COVINENT with the poeple of the holy land. Example: OT say's an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth NT say's turn the other cheek. However, I do agree with the essence of your second point, namely that condemntation of non believers is part of Christian faith. After all they're the suckers that are going to get the shit kicked out of them in the end times..right? However, judgement in such cases lies in the hands of God..not man. We are instructed to "Love our enemies" and "Forgive those who mock and persecute us in God's name". The ass kicking belongs to God! But I do understand your point and now better understand the piece you have written. I enjoyed the discussion. Thanks......Joe.
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on Outliving the Alphabet (say goodbye to abecedarian) by Retaliate
4 Sep 2003, 6:53 PM
Top of the list for my unhairy hairyness, take that poetandknowit! But even the compliment isn't going to get you a 10 when you are saying goodbye, abecedarian.
Are you serious about the forced fiction part? I thought from the comments and the title that you'd know that it was a completely true story- nothing's been added, seriously (though I did leave out the part where the snow melt leaked into her boot and I had to carry her 50 pound self around for an hour while she complained about being cold).
You (or one of your personas) liked the other memoir about my daughter that I put on here, a while back, the story about the drunken harmonica player on the city bus. This poem isn't about a guilt trip, it is about me appreciating my daughter, and I believe that some other people appreciated hearing about her innocence. It is not about a guilt trip, I march based on my conscience- and my conscience covers a lot. Name a more important thing and I promise, if it appealed to my conscience the way it did yours, I was there marching, or going door to door educating, or doing whatever I could do about it (barring monetary contributions). Thanks for your bold comments, if it weren't for your complaints, I wouldn't have known this ever made it in the top 20, though I totally agree with the reason it is(temporarily) #1, people are afraid to give it a low vote, even though their votes are anonymous, because they don't want to seem prejudiced or racist. But I know it is neither best on poemranker or my best work, in case you thought I'd get a big head over it.
The world has not changed since the beginning of time. The rules that dominate man are as rigid as those found in the physical world. We are ruled by lust, greed, and an unquenchable thirst for power and domination. You can fight all you want, the world will remain what it always has been. Sorry to burst your bubble. Good luck!
Is the Old Testament just a load of Old Cobblers, then? If you're a Christian then you must think it's the Word of God. Also, since you must believe there is only one God, and since you must worship Jesu, you must believe that Jesu is God. Therefore, the Old Testament is the Word of Jesu. Moreover, regardless of what you think about the Old Testament, you must believe that Jesu endorses the eternal damnation of those peasants who refuse to be saved. So Jesu does condemn people as well as indiscriminately heal them. Or are you so weak that you feel you can keep the nice bits of Christianity and leave out the bloated bits?
I think all the bits of Christianity are nice.
This is stunning work! You are very gifted.
"Remembering how
I was found lying there
beneath her thin body
mouthing a prayer
behind the good couch
and under the chair.
Kissing her earlobes
and under her chin,
delicate heaven
inevitable sin."
An excellent read! I love the words you chose. :)
Very vivid imagery! Well done. :)
Don't understand the difference between giving sight to the blind and ripping their fucking eyes out?. Can't quite seperate instruction from condemnation? Condemnation is old testiment stuff. Read your Bible and you'll understand.
ok, that mouse/house rhyme was one bad way to end this.
SupremeDreamer
on Outliving the Alphabet (say goodbye to abecedarian) by Retaliate
4 Sep 2003, 6:18 PM
Aww.. cmon now, you know i just do the meth to piss darkie off. Have a fun trip, and Happy Birthday!! :)
Not bad at'all.
no
Starts of strong, but then does not deliver as well as it could.
I understand what you say DA...but Jesus came to heal not to condem. Maybe we're getting into semantics...do you get my point?
SupremeDreamer
replying on Pray For Cum By JesusFreak (parody of CLS's pray for help) by DreamerSupreme
4 Sep 2003, 6:07 PM
because, havent you heard: im a sick bastard. I also have little else to do to occupy my time.
Why should I write about those Christian values? Do you think some Christian values are more true than others? I think all Christian values are equally valid and equally deserving of poetic reflection. You might give mercy, justice and love a 10/10, but you give the condemnation of muslims only 5/10.
I give them all 10/10.