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on Life On Earth by dougsoderstrom
22 Aug 2002, 10:28 AM
oh there is a sure and swift way out. i'll be the first to volunteer to help in THAT endeavor...
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE HIM STOP!!!!
eh.
sounds like you need a hot beef injection!
Scatastic!
you are a bright boy. You've got it almost right, and since we don't talk about sexuality openly in our culture you get extra special praise for even attempting to understand. Here goes. Our gender is determined at the time of our birth by our sex organs. the dr. looks down and says this kids got a willy he's a he. But occasionally mistake are made. Their is our orientation which is either hetero, homo, or bi. There is our identity which lies on a continuum between male and female. For example I may have male sex organs but identify with females and consider my self as such. Or vice versa. Androgenous people identify with both groups and are the happiest. There is also a genetic identity XX girl XY boy. Verey rarely there are males who have XX chromosones but only there genetic specialist knows their little secret you would not be able to tell either upclose our at a distance. Elves are another story. I know thy are as a rule adrogenous at least the tolkien kind, but I've never seen their plumbing.
vulcan, why do you insist on this format?
NOT AT ALL NOVEL
oops i forgot to sum it all up. I have female sex organs. My gender is female. If I identify with males I may consider my self a male but my actual gender remaions female. Ican havr my clit surgically inlarge but I can't have my vagina sewn shut enless I have my reproductive organs removed. Which can be done but is exceedingly rare. My chromosones will remain XX so clinically my gender is still female. Gender is a clinical word. Identity is used in the socio/psycho construct.
SIMPLISTIC
No, Alexander, I didn't kill him (in the literal sense anyway). And thank you so much for your kind offer to wrap yourself in my legs. I will give it some thought. I've been glancing through your work, and will certainly rank/comment as time permits today - like what I see so far ; )
Jesus Christ, woman! Will you stop making the same point over and over and actually read what I said? I am NOT making any sort of point about gender identity. I am not attempting to give you my views on what makes a person male or female. I am making the extremely simple point that ALTHOUGH SEX ORGANS CAN BE 'MALE' OR 'FEMALE' IN ONE SENSE, IT IS NOT THE SAME SENSE IN WHICH ANIMALS ARE 'MALE' OR 'FEMALE'. I am a male. My sex organs, however, are not males. They are 'male sex organs', but that's not to say that they're sex organs that are male. In the same way, to say that something's a fake Picasso is not to say it's a Picasso that is fake (it isn't a Picasso at all). French letters are not letters that are French. 'Male sex organs' just means those sex organs most associated with males, or at the very least it does not indicate that the sex organs themselves are 'male' in the same way that I am male. OK? Do you see what I am saying? I don't give two fucks about the ins and outs of gender identity in people; nor do I have any particular opinions on the subject.
Hits all the right angles, and then dangles, just so. 7/10
cute.
Zeddicus: if what you say is correct, you have a remarkable ability to be able to know what the vast majority of the teenage population of the world are feeling. Perhaps you should become the most successful counsellor the planet has ever seen. Or perhaps you're just talking out of your arse.
My, are you getting all persnickety lately, Zzin. Let's give those new to wordsmithery a chance to separate wheat from chaff. DDW, edit and prune your writing a little more, then submit it.
Very good 7.