| Re: Math Poem 3 by Dovina |
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50 |
4-Jan-05/10:01 AM |
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This poeme is a stain on the face of mathematics, and a stain on the bum of literature (literature has no face, because it is obscured by a giant bum).
Again, it is mathematically uninteresting. On reading your defence of its simplicity, it became clear you have no idea about how mathematicians work. You say the protagonist's assertion that "for all x: x/(x/3)=3" has to be simple so as to eliminate any doubt. This is stupid for two reasons:
1. No mathematician doubts a theorem, because it is true by definition. The question is: how do we know if a mathematical assertion, e.g. "for all x: x/(x/3)=3", is a theorem? Answer: We obtain a proof of it (or a counter-example, if it is not a theorem). If we can find a proof of the assertion, how in Sodomy can you doubt it? It may be an incredibly complicated proof that only a genius would understand, but this is not true in most cases. It's also the case that a proof, if written out to a suitable degree of formalism, can be checked by a computer. It is therefore perfectly feasible for your dweeb to have come up with some interesting mathematics that was not open to doubt.
2. You shoot yourself in the bum because while the protagonist's assertion is a simple one, as a mathematician he has every reason at least to question it, since he has not obtained a proof. Note that showing an assertion holds for 1, 6, 7, log 7, and (2^(1/3))^(1/8) is not grounds for generalising to all x!
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| Re: a comment on Betwixt and In Between by dougsoderstrom |
dougsoderstrom 207.80.112.12 |
4-Jan-05/9:59 AM |
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Zodiac:
I beg to differ about the percentage of American college professors that can be classified as liberal...... the true amount is 92.47%. And only 8.39% are gay, however, the percentage rises to 17.42% if one includes those who have engaged in a bi-sexual experience more than 69 times. However, these are simply crude estimates.
Love,
Doug
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| Re: a comment on Betwixt and In Between by dougsoderstrom |
dougsoderstrom 207.80.112.12 |
4-Jan-05/9:51 AM |
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Dear Zodiac:
I like your theoretical proposition concerning "the gay stuff." Sounds like a good idea for my next study. And by the way how did you know that I am "a moonlight hiker.......," you've been checking on me, I'll bet.
Love,
Doug
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| Re: a comment on The Snowcone Man by Zalev |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/9:37 AM |
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Make that, "Dead are my smile and the snowconeman."
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| Re: a comment on My Wife by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/9:34 AM |
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How, pray tell, is a fish any more ace, artistically speaking of course, than a crab, pig, bull, raven or flea, except that in this particular case it is used to reward seals for good performance?
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| Re: a comment on My Wife by Dovina |
richa 81.178.222.175 |
4-Jan-05/9:29 AM |
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because the fish flops alone. Their is no obvious reason to say fish when you mean reward. That the fish comes out of the blue is its main attraction in the poem. That is because it is a fish and fish artistically speaking are ace.
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| Re: a comment on Math Poem 3 by Dovina |
-=Dark_Angel=-, P.I. 81.153.196.50 |
4-Jan-05/9:19 AM |
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"your example is more of a logical tautology than math"
Are you saying theorems aren't mathematical?
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| Re: The Snowcone Man by Zalev |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/9:17 AM |
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It's hard to make everything fit into an acrostic, so a won't complain too much about the relevance of torn sneakers and old clothes to his giving you a snow cone. I agree with Shuushin, it's a good acrostic. Try "Snow cone" in line 5 and "Death is my smile and the snowconeman."
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| Re: Little Girl Sue by Zalev |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/9:05 AM |
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Good up through Verse 7. After that it gets strange.
Fix "Was she being abuse,"
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| Re: a comment on The Snowcone Man by Zalev |
Zalev 24.50.17.18 |
4-Jan-05/9:01 AM |
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Thank you for your comments and suggestions.
"Death took the snowconeman, and my smile." -
or "Death took the snowconeman and he took my smile." - something like that?
I don't know... The character that took my smile was my dad, as opposed to "Death" ... or is it the same thing. lol
I would need a few more suggestions, but you bring up a good point.
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| Re: a comment on Poetic Profit by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/8:55 AM |
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Waft out the door like a foul wind, a burp, a fart, a belch. Similis all.
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| Re: a comment on No sally, lay your troubles to bed by Crakyamuni |
Crakyamuni 131.252.229.61 |
4-Jan-05/8:55 AM |
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| Re: Uncertainty by nentwined |
Dan garcia-Black 66.218.59.62 |
4-Jan-05/8:47 AM |
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Man, you are in dire need of a tea party. Great!
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| Re: a comment on My Wife by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/8:45 AM |
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You are making an artistic issue of the fish, and just as well, since it canât count and has no numeric value to compare with 1. Iâm still not sure how my using it as a symbol for her smile and her reward to him in the poem relates to this.
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| Re: Mystery Stranger by Zalev |
Shuushin 147.154.235.53 |
4-Jan-05/8:42 AM |
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capitalize "[L]ord", I think.
Another unforced acrostic, nice - though I liked the other better (this one has a less flowing feel; more list-like, which is especially bad in an acrostic).
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| Re: The Snowcone Man by Zalev |
Shuushin 147.154.235.53 |
4-Jan-05/8:37 AM |
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a well made Acrostic to be sure - barely forced at all, really - okay, the "D" is forced. Maybe
"Death took the snowconeman, and my smile." -
or "Death took the snowconeman and he took my smile." - something like that?
and try "You want buy one?", he'd..." (should at least be in quotes).
Either way, nicely done, and an acrostic to boot.
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| Re: the nature of our stillborn by Crakyamuni |
Shuushin 147.154.235.53 |
4-Jan-05/8:31 AM |
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Well. Very nice, except I could do without the refrain - and this line:
"Don't smile and laugh, it's distance" - comes off as a concession to rhyme.
btw, as to the content (versus the form) - the message is that you were almost certainly trying to both love *and* be clever. At least to be clever.
I want to give this a nine, but that list bit keeps me from it.
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| Re: a comment on My Wife by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/8:31 AM |
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You say that only because you know a woman wrote it. Look at the poem not caring who wrote it and then decide if it's sexist. If anything, it favors the man. I think the poem makes fun of the woman's naive insistance on training her man and making him behave according to her wishes.
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| Re: a comment on Math Poem 3 by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/8:26 AM |
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| Re: a comment on Math Poem 3 by Dovina |
Dovina 69.175.6.101 |
4-Jan-05/8:25 AM |
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With tongue, lips and throat.
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